Truss construction

[rwand1]

Perhaps the right side as in photo is the framing for cathederal ceiling. It may be larger rafters to accomodate the insulation and air space above, while the left side of the picture could indicate an attic space above a flat ceiling. Either way I don't see a problem as evidenced by the photo.

[Marcel R. Cyr]

Raymond;

I also, am cofined to a Fisnish Carpentry Level, and that is because, after 40 years in the construction bussiness, my body will not let me do more, and that is why today my focal point is to be the best Project Superintendent possible and let the younger bodies do the work under my guidance.

What you said based on the pictures supplied, is kind of speculation and I tried to explain why the construction practice is wrong in either case.
Some builders out there need more guidance or better books and experience to show them how it is suppose to be.
That is why I am still in the field. For one that is willing to learn, I will spend unterupted and personnal time to make sure he/she understands. The Principles and loggic behind everything you do is most valuable to the teachings that can be provided along with the guidance of good reference books for them to learn.

As inspectors, I believe you should note what you see and not have to necessarily have to explain why unless there is probable cause, that the issue might create a problem with your references or capacity in the Generalistic Inspections.

A wise man once told me that you talk alot on the inspection tours, and you write what you see and what it is. Well, something like that. ha. ha. Wouldn't be surprised that you heard about him also.

Marcel

[Marcel R. Cyr]

Andrew;

I respect your concern about what you brought up, regarding the scabbing or splicing or the ridge board.

This procedure in stick building is normally for erection ease only, and has no structural value. It is there for the lateral stalbility of the rafters being installed one by one and assummed that the rafters are to be installed on both sides at the same time.

Since pictures on the Post are very hard to picture in 3-D, it is very hard to surmize a concrete conclusion.

Report what you see or concerns you and reccomendations of reference to a particular matter are always accepted by the client.
We are all here to help also.

Take care;

Marcel

[rwand1]

How old is the house? I don't see any comment as to age?

[away]

Marcel,
Thanks for the explanation. But it brings another thought to mind. If it has no structural value, then what is the purpose of the ridge board being the same size as the cut end of the rafters?

Thanks again.

[Joseph Burkeson, CMI]

Clearly a rafter system covered under the IRC refer to chapters 6 & 8.

For truss systems there are two sources for information; The Truss Institute and the Wood Truss Council of America BCSI 1-03 is pretty much the Bible of truss installation. Anyone who is contemplating performing New Construction inspections should be very familiar with this material.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by jburkeson

Clearly a rafter system covered under the IRC refer to chapters 6 & 8.

For truss systems there are two sources for information; The Truss Institute and the Wood Truss Council of America BCSI 1-03 is pretty much the Bible of truss installation. Anyone who is contemplating performing New Construction inspections should be very familiar with this material.

Welcome back Joe I see you renewed.
NACHI really does help all
.
Roy Cooke sr.
Joe looking at your web site you say a lot about ASHI .
I think you post more here at NACHI and get more information here at NACHI
do you not think it would be nice if you gave NACHI equal billing ?
http://www.square-oneinspection.com/4x/faq#ashi

WHAT IS THE AMERICAN SOCIETY OF HOME INSPECTORS?
The American Society of Home Inspectors, "ASHI" is the oldest and leading non-profit professional association for independent home inspectors. Since its formation in 1976, ASHI's Standards of Practice have served as the home inspector's performance guideline, universally recognized and accepted by professional and government authorities alike. Copies of the Standards are available free from ASHI. All Members of ASHI subscribe to a professional Code of Ethics that prohibits them from engaging in conflict of interest activities that might compromise their objectivity. This is the consumer's assurance that the inspector will not, for example, use the inspection to solicit repair work. In order to assist home inspectors in furthering their education, ASHI sponsors a number of technical seminars and workshops throughout the year, often in cooperation with one of its nearly 50 Chapters, and which the state of Indiana has its own recognized Chapter of ASHI. ASHI also serves as a public interest group by providing accurate and helpful consumer information to home-buyers on home purchasing and home maintenance.






WHO BELONGS TO ASHI?
Members of ASHI are independent professional home inspectors who have met the most rigorous technical and experience requirements in effect today. To become an ASHI member, an inspector must pass two written technical exams, have performed a minimum of 250 professional fee-paid home inspections, and maintained his or her candidate status for no less than six months. ASHI Members are required to follow the Society's Code of Ethics, and to obtain continuing education credits in order to keep current with the latest in building technology, materials, and professional skills.

[Joseph Burkeson, CMI]

Originally Posted by rcooke

Welcome back Joe I see you renewed.
NACHI really does help all
.
Roy Cooke sr.
Joe looking at your web site you say a lot about ASHI .
I think you post more here at NACHI and get more information here at NACHI
do you not think it would be nice if you gave NACHI equal billing ?
http://www.square-oneinspection.com/4x/faq#ashi

WHAT IS THE AMERICAN SOCIETY OF HOME INSPECTORS?
The American Society of Home Inspectors, "ASHI" is the oldest and leading non-profit professional association for independent home inspectors. Since its formation in 1976, ASHI's Standards of Practice have served as the home inspector's performance guideline, universally recognized and accepted by professional and government authorities alike. Copies of the Standards are available free from ASHI. All Members of ASHI subscribe to a professional Code of Ethics that prohibits them from engaging in conflict of interest activities that might compromise their objectivity. This is the consumer's assurance that the inspector will not, for example, use the inspection to solicit repair work. In order to assist home inspectors in furthering their education, ASHI sponsors a number of technical seminars and workshops throughout the year, often in cooperation with one of its nearly 50 Chapters, and which the state of Indiana has its own recognized Chapter of ASHI. ASHI also serves as a public interest group by providing accurate and helpful consumer information to home-buyers on home purchasing and home maintenance.






WHO BELONGS TO ASHI?
Members of ASHI are independent professional home inspectors who have met the most rigorous technical and experience requirements in effect today. To become an ASHI member, an inspector must pass two written technical exams, have performed a minimum of 250 professional fee-paid home inspections, and maintained his or her candidate status for no less than six months. ASHI Members are required to follow the Society's Code of Ethics, and to obtain continuing education credits in order to keep current with the latest in building technology, materials, and professional skills.

Roy,

I would hate to shatter any of your illusions (so I won't) but I will share this... Association membership is strictly a business decision, nothing more, nothing less. Associations are here to serve their members and if they fail to do that they will cease to be associations, that in mind I find very limited benefits in any national organization NACHI, ASHI, et al. Think globally all you want, but acting locally is all that really matters to me and if an association ain't delivering at the local level then they are not worth the membership fee to belong.

ASHI dominates the Tampa Bay area and markets under one brochure that gets printed & distributed (50K copies) to every Real Estate office in the tri-county area twice a year. I would have been a fool not to join and give my business the very best possibility for survival, being an ASHI member has generated over $10,000 of new business for me for an investment of just under $1,200, if that ever changes so will my membership status.

BTW, since you have no access to ASHI's website how could you even speculate about my activity there?

[Marcel R. Cyr]

Andrew;

Having a ridge board the same size as the plumb cut of the rafters on a stick built roof helps keep the rafter members where you want them aligned to and also helps prevent rotation under load somewhat like bridging and also helps in premature checking of the unsupported ends. The roof loads are also distributed equally to both sides.

Hope this helps.

Marcel

[jlybolt]

what MIcheal B. said.

[away]

Marcel,
Once again thank you. It was the rotational effect at the butt joint, I was thinking about. I guess I didn't really say that clearly. Granted we only have the oblique view in the picture and it is 2-d, but it kind of looked like the rafter on the left was not over the joint but next to it. While the rafter on the right was on or maybe even slighly towards the camera side of the joint.

Thanks again.

[lewens]

Roy
You have got to stop this nonsense. How did a thread about truss construction get to a discussion about ASHI.
Larry

[Marcel R. Cyr]

Start at the beginning.