InterNACHI


Go Back   InterNACHI Inspection Forum > Specific Inspection Topics > Structural Inspections

Notices

Structural Inspections Contains discussions about the structural portion of a home inspection. This includes foundations, framing, etc.

 
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 2/5/11, 4:08 PM
Stephen P. Shockley's Avatar
Stephen P. Shockley Stephen P. Shockley is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Salisbury, Maryland
Posts: 216
Default Water in crawl space - Draw Disbursement Inspection

Hi,

I did a draw disbursement inspection today. It was like the 5th one requested on this property. There will be at least one more to do. Anyhow, I opened up the crawlspace to see if the floor insulation had been put in yet. I noticed a lot of water sitting along the foundation wall at the same end where the crawl space entry was. They don't have the vapor barrier down yet and the landscaping hasn't been done yet either. We've also had a considerable amount of rain recently. Given the stage the construction is in, I'm wondering if mentioning the water at this point would be a bit premature. Any thoughts/comments appreciated.


Regards,

Steve
Attached Thumbnails
water-crawl-space-draw-disbursement-inspection-howardm-020511-d5-009_640x480.jpg   water-crawl-space-draw-disbursement-inspection-howardm-020511-d5-010_640x480.jpg   water-crawl-space-draw-disbursement-inspection-howardm-020511-d5-012_640x480.jpg  



Shore-Footed Property Services, LLC
Stephen P. Shockley

MD Licensed Home Inspector
410-726-3471
Salisbury, Md
Reply With Quote
Need a home inspection in Maine? Check out InterNACHI's listing of Maine certified home inspectors. Or, find a home inspector anywhere in the world with our inspection search engine.
  #2  
Old 2/5/11, 4:15 PM
Roy D. Cooke, Sr's Avatar
Roy D. Cooke, Sr Roy D. Cooke, Sr is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Brighton, ON
Posts: 14,621
Default Re: Water in crawl space - Draw Disbursement Inspection

Defiantly , water is our enemy .No one can fault you for reporting what you see .
I would even say water in Crawl space recommend a Sump Pump be installed .



Need help on inspection call my cell 613-827-2011

I like email Roycooke@hotmail.com

Never wrestle with a pig (however titled) as you just get dirty and the pig has all the fun.



Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 2/5/11, 4:17 PM
Jeffrey R. Pope's Avatar
Jeffrey R. Pope Jeffrey R. Pope is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Santa Clarita, CA
Posts: 8,058
Default Re: Water in crawl space - Draw Disbursement Inspection

That's not what you're being paid to report on...



IF YOUR INSPECTOR IS NOT USING THERMAL IMAGING, YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE WHOLE PICTURE ®
Jeff Pope
JPI Home Inspection Service
Santa Clarita CA
(661) 212-0738
Santa Clarita Home Inspection
http://www.MyInspector.net



Last edited by jpope; 2/5/11 at 4:20 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 2/5/11, 4:21 PM
Stephen P. Shockley's Avatar
Stephen P. Shockley Stephen P. Shockley is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Salisbury, Maryland
Posts: 216
Default Re: Water in crawl space - Draw Disbursement Inspection

I understand that's not what I'm being paid to do, but I do have a place on my form for any observations that stick out. There was one house that I had done where there was some organic growth on the sheetrock already before it was painted. I did make mention of it then.



Shore-Footed Property Services, LLC
Stephen P. Shockley

MD Licensed Home Inspector
410-726-3471
Salisbury, Md
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 2/5/11, 4:40 PM
Roy D. Cooke, Sr's Avatar
Roy D. Cooke, Sr Roy D. Cooke, Sr is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Brighton, ON
Posts: 14,621
Default Re: Water in crawl space - Draw Disbursement Inspection

Quote:
Originally Posted by jpope View Post
That's not what you're being paid to report on...
Wops I know nothing about Draw Inspections , sorry ... Roy



Need help on inspection call my cell 613-827-2011

I like email Roycooke@hotmail.com

Never wrestle with a pig (however titled) as you just get dirty and the pig has all the fun.



Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 2/5/11, 5:15 PM
Jamie R. Wilks's Avatar
Jamie R. Wilks Jamie R. Wilks is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Southeast, Virginia
Posts: 133
Default Re: Water in crawl space - Draw Disbursement Inspection

I do a fair amount of draw inspections, and the most alarming thing I run into is what the draw companies are looking for. They only seem to care about what is completed and what is not (percentages only). I have seen issues, problems or areas of concern and noted them in the draw report. I even called one particular draw company with a concern, and they stated quality was not an issue, only if it was installed or completed. I still list any problems I see.



Jamie R Wilks
North Star Home Inspections
VCHI #3380000351
InterNACHI #05081596
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 2/5/11, 5:59 PM
John Gromkoski's Avatar
John Gromkoski John Gromkoski is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Staten Island, NY
Posts: 608
Default Re: Water in crawl space - Draw Disbursement Inspection

I personally have not performed any bank draw inspections but I would assume you have some sort of written agreement in place and your responsibilities or lack thereof would be in that agreement.

I have been the Builder or Project Manager on several projects that required bank draw inspections and in most cases the inspector only determined the percentage of work in place.




774 Manor Road
Staten Island, NY 10314
718-514-3393
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 2/5/11, 6:08 PM
Stephen W. Stanczyk's Avatar
Stephen W. Stanczyk Stephen W. Stanczyk is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Kapowsin, WA
Posts: 4,965
Send a message via AIM to sstanczyk
Default Re: Water in crawl space - Draw Disbursement Inspection

I have done over 1500 draw inspections. I am paid to assign percentage of work completed and that's it. The only time I used the notes section was for a burst pipe with water pouring out of the crawl space vents and for a home that was 100% sided one month and missing the siding the next month. (Defective siding that was removed) It is not your job to comment on construction techniques or defects, especially for what they pay.




Stephen Stanczyk
Washington State Licensed Home Inspector # 221
President, Washington Association of Property Inspectors (WAPI)
(253) 241-0602 calls answered until 10pm


Pierce County -Thurston County - King County - Snohomish County
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 2/5/11, 7:05 PM
Joseph Hagarty,  CMI's Avatar
Joseph Hagarty, CMI Joseph Hagarty,  CMI is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Parkesburg, PA
Posts: 5,636
Default Re: Water in crawl space - Draw Disbursement Inspection

I would definately note it and include along with the report.

I have noted foundation failures, mold and defects in construction that were unrelated to the scope / delineated items to be inspected.

Better to have the issues addressed now rather than later....



Joseph P. Hagarty
joseph.hagarty@comcast.net
Main Line Inspections, Inc.
Phone: 610-399-3675
Email: MainLineHI@comcast.net

http://pa.nachi.org/mainlinepa/about.html
http://www.householdinspector.com

National President / NACHI (2003-2004)
NACHI Education Committee Member
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 2/5/11, 7:07 PM
Joseph Hagarty,  CMI's Avatar
Joseph Hagarty, CMI Joseph Hagarty,  CMI is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Parkesburg, PA
Posts: 5,636
Default Re: Water in crawl space - Draw Disbursement Inspection

photos show leaves along with the water.
is there a clear path of entry for ground water to the crawl space?



Joseph P. Hagarty
joseph.hagarty@comcast.net
Main Line Inspections, Inc.
Phone: 610-399-3675
Email: MainLineHI@comcast.net

http://pa.nachi.org/mainlinepa/about.html
http://www.householdinspector.com

National President / NACHI (2003-2004)
NACHI Education Committee Member
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 2/6/11, 1:00 PM
Jeffrey R. Pope's Avatar
Jeffrey R. Pope Jeffrey R. Pope is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Santa Clarita, CA
Posts: 8,058
Default Re: Water in crawl space - Draw Disbursement Inspection

Quote:
Originally Posted by sstanczyk View Post
I have done over 1500 draw inspections. I am paid to assign percentage of work completed and that's it. The only time I used the notes section was for a burst pipe with water pouring out of the crawl space vents and for a home that was 100% sided one month and missing the siding the next month. (Defective siding that was removed) It is not your job to comment on construction techniques or defects, especially for what they pay.
Ditto...



IF YOUR INSPECTOR IS NOT USING THERMAL IMAGING, YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE WHOLE PICTURE ®
Jeff Pope
JPI Home Inspection Service
Santa Clarita CA
(661) 212-0738
Santa Clarita Home Inspection
http://www.MyInspector.net


Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 2/6/11, 1:38 PM
Michael R. Boyett's Avatar
Michael R. Boyett Michael R. Boyett is online now
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 4,749
Default Re: Water in crawl space - Draw Disbursement Inspection

Double ditto. I don't do the simple $15/$20 draw inspections but have, on occasion, done draw inspections on larger, commercial projects. The last ones for a national construction management firm out of Philadelphia contained the following in the Notes section:
Quote:
oThis is a Draw Inspection only and not a quality control inspection of any kind. The Draw Inspection was to determine if certain portions of the work claimed by the contractor has actually been performed to the completion level described in their draw request.

o Capital City Inspections makes no observations, inspections, warranties or guarantees to the performance of any of the construction, installations, repairs or replacements.
If they want to contract for and pay for a QC, site or performance inspection then that would be different.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 2/6/11, 2:27 PM
Stephen P. Shockley's Avatar
Stephen P. Shockley Stephen P. Shockley is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Salisbury, Maryland
Posts: 216
Default Re: Water in crawl space - Draw Disbursement Inspection

I think they had left the crawl space door loose at one point and it blew down. There are a lot of trees on that side of the house and the water was only sitting along the foundation wall in that area.



Shore-Footed Property Services, LLC
Stephen P. Shockley

MD Licensed Home Inspector
410-726-3471
Salisbury, Md
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Building Science- research from respected sources Brian A. MacNeish Ancillary Inspection Services & Additional Topics 17 7/12/11 6:31 AM
What might cause this many cracks? bhamilton Structural Inspections 15 2/25/09 12:44 PM
Need Help On Chimney Liners Nick Scibetta Exterior Inspections 13 1/11/06 9:53 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 3:37 PM.


Popular Sections

:

All Sections

Inspection News

InterNACHI Membership

Inspection Standards

Inspection Education

InterNACHI Inspectors

Inspection Links

 

 

 

NACHI.ORG Statistics

 

 

no new posts