InterNACHI


Go Back   InterNACHI Inspection Forum > Specific Inspection Topics > Structural Inspections

Notices

Structural Inspections Contains discussions about the structural portion of a home inspection. This includes foundations, framing, etc.

 
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 1/12/12, 10:06 PM
Randy L. Mayo, PE's Avatar
Randy L. Mayo, PE Randy L. Mayo, PE is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Rolla, MO
Posts: 372
Default Why doesn't the door latch?

The symptom: The bedroom door does not latch and there is a diagonal crack in the wall.

The problem: The concrete blocks are oriented the wrong way and crushed under the beam weight. (The mold and rotten beam is another issue)
Attached Thumbnails
why-doesnt-door-latch-door.jpg   why-doesnt-door-latch-block.jpg  





Randy Mayo, P.E.

573-201-8162

www.rlmengineers.com
Reply With Quote
Need a home inspection in Pennsylvania? Check out InterNACHI's listing of Pennsylvania certified home inspectors. Or, find a home inspector anywhere in the world with our inspection search engine.
  #2  
Old 1/13/12, 9:40 AM
Joe Funderburk, CMI's Avatar
Joe Funderburk, CMI Joe Funderburk, CMI is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Hickory Grove, SC
Posts: 8,343
Send a message via Yahoo to jfunderburk
Default Re: Why doesn't the door latch?

Needs a car jack to beef it up.



“The things that will destroy America are peace at any price,
prosperity at any cost, safety first instead of duty first,
the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life.”
Theodore Roosevelt


Joe Funderburk, CMI
Alpha & Omega Home Inspections, LLC
Inspecting Upstate SC & Charlotte Metro, NC
NACHI ID: NACHI05120170
www.aohomeinspection.com


Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 1/13/12, 11:53 AM
Gary D. Rowden Gary D. Rowden is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Hemet, CA
Posts: 148
Default Re: Why doesn't the door latch?

If you are trying to determine the possible cause for this door to be out of square within the door jamb there is a couple things I would verify first.

1. First off what side of the door is this beam located? It’s obvious the beam is sagging somewhat, where in conjunction is it with the door. The door jamb hinge side appears lower causing a larger gap at lintel on door knob side of jamb, thus causing striker bolt not to latch. If the beam in question and closest joist is closer to the hinge side of the door that would probably explain the cracking in wall and door out of square.
2. Also check the leveling on the flooring and door jamb to help determine if this was caused by installer error, foundation or both.


Of course to correct this problem would require additional support to beam and like Joe mentioned a jack system would work, just be carefully not to over extent to square out door and as Joseph mentioned part of the problem could be installer error.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 1/13/12, 6:27 PM
Gary Farnsworth Gary Farnsworth is online now
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Olathe, KS
Posts: 3,718
Default Re: Why doesn't the door latch?

Are those 2x4 floor joists? Mold? This home has problems.



CMI, CPI, KS #0110-0094 Termite #16601
KS Radon #KS-MS-0027
BBB A+ Accredited Business
Serving the Greater Kansas City Metro Area
Eastern Kansas/Western Missouri
http://www.metrospeckc.com
"If opportunity doesn't knock, build a door"--Milton Berle
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 1/13/12, 6:34 PM
Christopher Currins's Avatar
Christopher Currins Christopher Currins is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Godfrey, IL
Posts: 7,630
Default Re: Why doesn't the door latch?

Quote:
Originally Posted by growden View Post
If you are trying to determine the possible cause for this door to be out of square within the door jamb there is a couple things I would verify first.

Quote:
Needs a car jack to beef it up.
and like Joe mentioned a jack system would work, just be carefully not to over extent to square out door
Yeah, a car jack should fix the problem.



Christopher Currins
Certified, Licensed

Proudly serving the St.Louis Metro

St. Charles, St. Peters, Maryland Heights,
O'Fallon, Florrisant, MO Home Inspector




BLESSED ARE THE CRACKED, FOR THEY ARE THE ONES WHO LET IN THE "LIGHT"!
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 1/13/12, 7:02 PM
Gary D. Rowden Gary D. Rowden is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Hemet, CA
Posts: 148
Default Re: Why doesn't the door latch?

Quote:
Originally Posted by ccurrins View Post
Yeah, a car jack should fix the problem.
Technically it probably could, but I personally was referring to a foundation jack like so.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 1/13/12, 7:58 PM
Marcel Gratton's Avatar
Marcel Gratton Marcel Gratton is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Gatineau, QC
Posts: 1,778
Default Re: Why doesn't the door latch?

· Major Concern: The column that support the beam is made up of concrete block that have been installed on their sides. Concrete blocks must be installed upright (with their hollow channels vertical) in order to offer adequate support. Horizontally stacked concrete blocks risk collapse under heavy loads. It is also unlikely that proper footings were employed. The concrete blocks should be replaced with properly sized piers on engineered footings. We recommend you consult a structural engineer or a qualified contractor experienced in structural repairs to further evaluate this condition and provide repair recommendations.
Attached Thumbnails
why-doesnt-door-latch-0268.jpg  



Marcel Gratton, NACHI04011210, CMI
On The Level Inspection
Gatineau, Québec
http://www.onthelevelinspection.com/
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 1/14/12, 10:37 PM
Andy E. Lee's Avatar
Andy E. Lee Andy E. Lee is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 57
Default Re: Why doesn't the door latch?

I would say that replacing the 4 panel hollow core door with a 6 panel hollow core door added the stress that cracked the concrete block.



Andy E. Lee
Just Right Home Inspections
the right inspection, the right way..
Ripon, CA
(209) 556 3758

Click to visit our site!
http://www.justrightinspections.com




Email me


find us on Facebook



Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 1/15/12, 6:32 PM
Tim Spargo's Avatar
Tim Spargo Tim Spargo is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Lancaster, CA
Posts: 2,407
Default Re: Why doesn't the door latch?

Cool pics Randy.

The block is just the tip of the iceberg there... But I'm sure that shovel-spread pile 'o crete easily meets R403, right?

Recommendation
If there is an "Easy Button" on the front door of the home, just press it and maybe the foundation, pier and framing will fix itself.

Or.. maybe the "Home Warranty Will take care of it *after you move in*"



Home Inspections in Palmdale Lancaster California

Tim Spargo
Spec Rite Inspections
Commercial and Residential Inspections
Palmdale Lancaster Santa Clarita CA
661-317-5770








Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 1/16/12, 10:37 PM
Charles A. Punches's Avatar
Charles A. Punches Charles A. Punches is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: west palm beach, fl
Posts: 36
Default Re: Why doesn't the door latch?

Was the salamander in the photo your client?
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 1/17/12, 5:42 AM
Randy L. Mayo, PE's Avatar
Randy L. Mayo, PE Randy L. Mayo, PE is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Rolla, MO
Posts: 372
Default Re: Why doesn't the door latch?

Charles

Yes....the salamander was there. To be honest I did not see it when I took the picture, only after I got back and downloaded the pictures. I should have added a disclaimer "no wildlife were harmed during the inspection of this house."





Randy Mayo, P.E.

573-201-8162

www.rlmengineers.com
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 3:39 PM.


Popular Sections

:

All Sections

Inspection News

InterNACHI Membership

Inspection Standards

Inspection Education

InterNACHI Inspectors

Inspection Links

 

 

 

NACHI.ORG Statistics

 

 

no new posts