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Do these wood truss joists look right? I think when I've seen them in the past they had truss plates installed.
I've never seen this particular type of installation. |
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Hey Vince;
I installed some of those trusses in the late 70's but they had truss plates. Maybe this is an earlier version of the concept. Wish I could help you on this more. Marcel LEED Green Associates InachiAwardsPortal: Inachi US Member of the Year Award 2009 |
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Any idea who the manufacture is on this design of connections.? Marcel LEED Green Associates InachiAwardsPortal: Inachi US Member of the Year Award 2009 |
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Thanks and wish I could have helped you more. Marcel LEED Green Associates InachiAwardsPortal: Inachi US Member of the Year Award 2009 |
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Please Note:
Brian A. MacNeish is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
See: http://www.toolbase.org/Technology-I...eb-floor-truss
"The second type of trimmable open-web floor truss is an all-wood truss. This product has a section of dimension lumber on the ends as opposed to an I-joist. It does not rely on truss plates for connections like most open-web wood trusses. Rather, the chords and webs are connected using finger-jointing technology." |
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If you see no evidence of failure you have no business calling it unless you have direct knowledge of this type of truss.
Kenton Shepard, InterNACHI member # 04082383 Certified Master Inspector (CMI) InterNACHI Director of International Development Director of Green Building EXPERT WITNESS SERVICE Conventional and Log homes (303) 717-8940
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I thought Marcel would handle this one with ease. . .
Very common, very reliable system. Seen most often in commercial applications sub-floors and ceilings. IF YOUR INSPECTOR IS NOT USING THERMAL IMAGING, YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE WHOLE PICTURE ® Jeff PopeJPI Home Inspection Service Santa Clarita CA (661) 212-0738 Santa Clarita Home Inspection http://www.MyInspector.net |
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Funny Jeff; The joist design is been around for years, but this connection of the internal chords is what does not look familiar. Around the State the chord connections are all made with truss plates. The disadvantage of using this type of truss uphere with cellars is you need ten foot foundations. That is why it did not last long. It has been used quite a bit on multi-housing units with crawl space and frost walls. No reason to call out anything wrong with it, because I don't see anything wrong, just questioning the type of connection. Can't find a manufacture on it either. Marcel LEED Green Associates InachiAwardsPortal: Inachi US Member of the Year Award 2009 |
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Just tuggin' your chain big dog
I was actually referring to the design of this truss. It's one of the oldest that I know of. I actually learned about it during my Ironworker's apprentice-training, way back when. . . I think it was referred to as a "channel-bore" or a "channel-lock" (I could be wrong, that was a long time ago), and they were pre-cut but assembled on site. The system is still in use, but I don't know if they're still assembled on site. The more modern systems that utilize the stamped gusset-plates are much less expensive, and therefore, much more popular. IF YOUR INSPECTOR IS NOT USING THERMAL IMAGING, YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE WHOLE PICTURE ® Jeff PopeJPI Home Inspection Service Santa Clarita CA (661) 212-0738 Santa Clarita Home Inspection http://www.MyInspector.net |
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Curiosity gets me though, that I am unable to find a link on this type of connector, anything kicking around? This design of truss, I was using in the early 80's with the gusset pressure plate, so the design must go quite a few years beyound that, would be my guess. I'll keep digging. Thanks for the info. Marcel LEED Green Associates InachiAwardsPortal: Inachi US Member of the Year Award 2009 |
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It's a variation of (I believe) the Warren truss, which dates back to the early 1800's. IF YOUR INSPECTOR IS NOT USING THERMAL IMAGING, YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE WHOLE PICTURE ® Jeff PopeJPI Home Inspection Service Santa Clarita CA (661) 212-0738 Santa Clarita Home Inspection http://www.MyInspector.net |
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Well, thanks to Jeff Pope, in my research, I stumbled over this that might be of help to all.
http://www.brantacan.co.uk/trusstypes.htm#Warren And Vince; the originator of this thread, we are still working on it to help you and me understand some of this conditions better. Hang in there. Marcel LEED Green Associates InachiAwardsPortal: Inachi US Member of the Year Award 2009 |
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