NACHI needs a few good men / women

[dharris]

Originally Posted by rray

They sure had them there when I was participating from 2001-2002. I believe they probably still do since many of the same people I knew in 2001-2002 are still members and still have their various opinions about things.

Ditto with creia.org.

I recall those days. Since JP and a couple others left the BB has changed "with minor exceptions" to a totally professional BB, with some highly respected and knowlegable people committed to education and little political controversy.


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[dharris]

members there are with that info.

As far as audited accounting, how's this:

http://www.nachi.org/nachitaxexempt.htm

Do you have a similar post for your association?

I don't. What I did receive at convention was a copy of ASHI's fininacial statment that clearly identified where all ASHI dollars came from and where all my and all other members $s went last year.
To the best of my knowelge detailed information is provided to all members upon request.

The latest public information I 've seen was in Dec ASHI Reporter.
Some of the accounting reported was last year... ASHI gave 200,000 back the the chapters and over 500,000 for the past 2 years, and ASHI had a signifcant surplus that will be spent to provide the products and information members desire.

Is AZ a license state?
Yes... AZ does not require CE.

Does you association provide low cost, quality state CE for your members. We do.

They sure do. To date 2 three hr.seminars. One at no charge and 1 was 5.00 that included food. Additional free and low fee seminars are being planned and a 1 day 8 hr."inspect a house" is scheduled for March 18th, this annual event alone usually has over 100 expereinced and new inspectors attending, for the low fee of 100.00

The courses offered around hers, and eligable for CE credit for the other asociations are childish, at least the one's that I have attended. One such course actually was in violation of the state's CE provider law and is currentgly inder state investigation. What about in AZ.

All AZ ASHI seminars are required to meet ASHI nationals strick proto call specificiations to qualify to national CE.

[Russel Ray]

If one wants to get into politics, it occurs at every level of every organization, including ashi and nachi. Been there, done that. Not interested in doing it anymore. My politickin' days are over. I have more exciting things to do, like watching all of our San Diego politicians fall, from the City Council all the way up to the hallowed walls in D.C.

[dharris]

Originally Posted by tallen

Hey Dan, where have you been? I have missed you.

Hi Todd... Just hanging out and shaking my head at yet another nachi "growing" experience { I think this is major bruhaa # 15, in the past three years} wondering if nachi is ever going to grow up and provide it's members and all of our customers the professional reprensation they are entitled to, and deserve.

[Ted Allen]

Originally Posted by dharris

Hi Todd... Just hanging out and shaking my head at yet another nachi "growing" experience { I think this is major bruhaa # 15, in the past three years} wondering if nachi is ever going to grow up and provide it's members and all of our customers the professional reprensation they are entitled to, and deserve.

Good to hear from you Dan.

I tend to agree with the first part, especialy in light of this recent fiasco. As for the second, it's up to each individual inspector to provide professional representation to his or her clients. No Org. can do that for you.

[lcapaul]

Originally Posted by jfarsetta

Joe,

If I stand in front of you, and have a recorder in my pocket, I have not broken the law. Even as far as telephone conversations are concerned, it is legal in many states to actually record a telephone conversation, providing that at least one of the parties are aware of the activity. The person recording the conversation can be the party knowing of it, and thereby makes it a legal activity. The person who recorded this conversation brought the recorder after being approached once, and afterward being allowed to attend a round table.

Once again, you prove your ignorance of facts, in an effort to malign me. I say right, and you counter with left. It's okay, Joe. I expect nothing less from you.

As to condoning this behavior, there is nothing illegal in it. Considering the graviry of the conversations I am speaking of, and who was doing the majority of the talking, the membership would be shocked.

Here you go, Joe... http://www.nachi.org/esop-committee.htm

Joe says its legal to Tape conversations with "One Party Consent" in several States, he's correct on that, but he is incorrect in believing that "one party consent" is Legal in Florida. Florida is known as a "Two Party State" and if more than two people are involved in the Taped Conversation, then all must give there consent, not just the person with the recorder in his pocket.


I'm neutral in this matter, so far, I'm just surfing thought the thread trying to find out what the argument is all about. The Tapes mentioned I believe were supposedly taped at the Convention, the "palace" may have been in Disney World, but it was still in Florida, I just thought the Legality of the tapes should be cleared up.

[Rodman Roeske]

One of the definitions of a charter:
"A charter sets out the purpose, the distinctive character, mission, values and goals."

I see that in the interest of "less is more" the above mentioned charter meets this definition with simple elegance.

Does any more need to be said? Don't read into it what is not written.

[dharris]

Hi guys... Dam the fight between the north and south guys in state leg section is getting gooood.
Keep the entertaiment level up and your org is sure to continue to break all records of viewers.

As an unbiased , ah mabe a little biased "Go Joe B" out sider I'm getting the impression there may be some shady inspectors with questionable past historys ie.. Nicky only "Certified " home inspectors in your org. Seeing that nick personally certifies you all does he verify your crimal record before taking that responsability????

[jwortham]

Attention-seeking trolls

This class of trolls seeks to incite as many responses as possible and to absorb a disproportionate share of the collective attention span.

• Advertising another forum, especially a rival or a hated forum.
• Claiming to be someone they cannot possibly be: "As an actual, real-life samurai, I have some problems with (the film) The Seven Samurai."
• No longer having affiliation to or current knowledge of the subject at hand, yet continually posting opinions and commentary as "experts".
• Messages containing a deliberate flaw or error: "I think 2001: A Space Odyssey is Roman Polanski's best film."
• Asking for help with an implausible task or problem: "How do I season my Crock Pot? I don't want everything I cook in it to taste the same."
• Intentionally naive questions: "Can I cook pasta in olive oil instead of water"
• Intentional typos: "Does anyone have a copy of Sonic Herpes for the X-Box?"
• Messages containing a self-referential appeal to status. "Evian is bottled water for white trash. I prefer Dasani water imported from Italy."
• Intentionally posting an outrageous argument, deliberately constructed around a fundamental but obfuscated flaw or error. Often the poster will become defensive when the argument is refuted, and may continue the thread through the use of further flawed arguments; this is referred to as "feeding" the troll.
• A subclass of the above is the flawed proof of an important unsolved mathematical problem or impossibility (e.g. 1 = 2); however, these may not always be troll-posts, and are sometimes, at least, mathematically interesting.
• Politically contentious messages: "I think George W. Bush is the best/worst President ever."
• Posting politically sensitive images in inappropriate places.
• Feigning innocence, after a flamewar ensues.
• Off-topic complaints about personal life, even threats of suicide: sometimes, this is the "cry for help" troll.
• Plural or paranoid answers to personal opinions expressed by individuals: "I don't think that all of you really believe that—you're just ganging up on me!"
• Paramour trolls get a thrill from establishing serial online affairs with females of a group. This incites public rivalry among the women who once thought the nicknames, poetry, and declarations of affection were exclusive to them. Since the online love affair is developed separately in chat programs, it takes a long time for the online cat-fight to be detected.
• Combinations of the above. For example, a troll combines inflammatory statements with poor grammar and AIM-speak (also known as "netspeak" or "chatspeak"): "lmfao u are so weak minded and predictablei thought i wan iggied i play ya like a card"

Sound like anyone we know of?

[Russel Ray]

Originally Posted by jwortham

Attention-seeking trolls

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Paramour trolls get a thrill from establishing serial online affairs with females of a group.

Sound like anyone we know of?

That leaves me out. Whew! That was close!

[dharris]

Originally Posted by jwortham

Attention-seeking trolls

This class of trolls seeks to incite as many responses as possible and to absorb a disproportionate share of the collective attention span.

Sound like anyone we know of?

Heck guys if your referring to me, gotta admit your giving me too much credit.

I'm just amazed at the amount of people that belong to this org, market your org to the public, with this public forum posting unbelievable unprofessional comments, public bashing amoung your own. Laughable { auctally quite sad]comments about how your going to be put out of business due to not being able to meet any given states minimum lic. requirements after nick tells your customers that only nachi certified inspectors are elite, not blind like other inspectors and superior over other inspectors because you took his phony on line quiz.

All this and more daily including your own owner openly bashing nationally recognized professionals in this profession on an open BB for your customers and realtors to see.
It's really sad and makes our profession look like a joke to any non inspector that comes to your site due to the members promoting it.

Guess over 8,0000 according to nick will do anything to be publicly embarrased by paying 289.00 to have the worthless "certified " title provided by this org.

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[jwortham]

Guess over 8,0000 according to nick will do anything to be publicly embarrased by paying 289.00 to have the worthless "certified " title provided by this org.

I'd be alot more embarrased if I was posting on those same public message boards with the misspellings, errors in grammar and generally anti-social and unlikable diatribes that you currently do.

Dan, you're a troll.

Anyone with any IQ over room temperature can see you're a miserable human being.

Do you really think you bring any credit to our profession?
I'd rather hire one of these new inspectors you so cavalierly dismiss than a genuinely nasty person such as yourself.

Go away little man. We're tired of your sniveling.

[Timothy J. Gardner]

Well said, Jeff. Grinch Dan has been MIA for a while here, too bad he came back!

tg

[William J. Decker]

Dan;

Please refrain from messing up our education area. You don;t seen any NACHI members posting such drivel on any of the other association boards. That says two things:

1) NACHI is open to all, even little sand fleas like you.
2) The other board are not as open.

I would ask my felow members to ignore this guy. Unsubscribe from this thread and ignore him if he pops you anywhere else.

I know it is tempting to take pot shots at his posts, but that is what he wants. Just ignore him and he will go away.

[Doug Edwards]

The ignore option works very well. Just click on their name and it takes you into their information site, click on ignore and submit. Makes them disappear off the thread. The only thing that will show is their name and a message saying that this person is on your ignore list.