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Being neither codeaphobe nor codeaphile I believe an ICC cert would be ok for those that want it. But how hard can the tests be if a 2 1/2 hr class will guarantee passing?
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Maybe it is the quality of the education. By the same token it could take you weeks of free classes to achieve the same thing. It can be done if the instructors know their way around the code books. Since they each recently passed sections of the ICC, I would guess they have a good feel for it.

Do you know someone who thinks the ICC tests are easy? Someone who has actually passed them of course.
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Being neither codeaphobe nor codeaphile I believe an ICC cert would be ok for those that want it. But how hard can the tests be if a 2 1/2 hr class will guarantee passing?
Brian,

If I read the posted promotional material correctly, there is no guarantee of actually passing...just a guarantee of a second "boot camp" for free if you don't.
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"Do you know someone who thinks the ICC tests are easy? Someone who has actually passed them of course."

Yes there are easy.

NCPCCI or ICC test are easy.

They are so easy that The state of Ohio uses them for certification.

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Any TEST is easy...if you know the information you are being tested on...



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Any TEST is easy...if you know the information you are being tested on...

I only pick this one because it looked cool.
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Maybe it is the quality of the education. By the same token it could take you weeks of free classes to achieve the same thing. It can be done if the instructors know their way around the code books. Since they each recently passed sections of the ICC, I would guess they have a good feel for it.

Do you know someone who thinks the ICC tests are easy? Someone who has actually passed them of course.
The last code test I passed was API 1104, which took an entire day of highlighting to pass.
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Good test. But not a Code Test. You are tested in weld types and placement in the Code Test, and how to read weld types on plans.

Don't confuse Code with Trade. Two different animals.
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I spoke with Gregg Bell last night just prior to one of your chapter meetings, (I was their to meet someone else who came to town).

I think Gregg and Joe are on the right track with this. The method they are going to be using is the right one.

In every proposed Licensing Bill in Florida for the last 16 years, the ICC was one of 5 major exceptions for certain requirements. AS the FL guys know, FL is BIG on Code. Even though we do not use the ICC Codes. The whole windstorm thingy ya know.
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In every proposed Licensing Bill in Florida for the last 16 years, the ICC was one of 5 major exceptions for certain requirements.
...and they all went down in flames. Many believe that the proposed licensing bill in Florida that actually will become law will be one that gains the support of more than just the Florida code inspectors who wish to use legislation as a means to reduce their competition and increase their fees. As long as the 16 year long losing trend that you mentioned continues, it really doesn't matter what previously rejected measures are proposed, does it?

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more than just the Florida code inspectors who wish to use legislation as a means to reduce their competition and increase their fees.
To date the Florida Code Inspectors, correctly called, Code Enforcement and Inspectors in Florida, have not been involved in any of the proposed legislation. Rumor has it they are considering getting involved though.

The Code Enforcement and Inspectors do not charge anything for their fees now. Nor are they allowed to.

Code Enforcement and Inspectors are already regulated and required to have Licenses in Florida. SS468 Part XII.

We home inspectors on the other hand do charge for our services.
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Good test. But not a Code Test. You are tested in weld types and placement in the Code Test, and how to read weld types on plans.

Don't confuse Code with Trade. Two different animals.
OK Jeff, do not let the words Standard and Code confuse you.
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Good test. But not a Code Test. You are tested in weld types and placement in the Code Test, and how to read weld types on plans.

Don't confuse Code with Trade. Two different animals.

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Note to Exam Candidates regarding API-1104 code:
The American Petroleum Institute has just published the 20th Editioin of API-1104,
Welding of Pipelines and Related Facilities. This standard may be purchased through Global at 1-800-854-7179.

Until 30 May 2006, candidates choosing the API-1104 open codebook exam may use either the 19th or 20th Edition of API-1104 to take the exam.

Effective 01 June 2006, candidates choosing the API-1104 open codebook exam may only use the 20th Edition. The new API-1104 exam will consist of 60 multiple choice questions taken in the same two hour format. The new API-1104 exam is not compatible with any editions of API-1104 other than the 20th Edition.

Candidates are responsible for purchasing the API-1104 codebook and, if not in possession of abound copy of the standard. must present proof of purchase for any photocopies presented.


You know there are more than just building codes out there.
One trick pony perhaps?

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