New Org.

[Blaine Wiley]

You're too polite, Joe.

I would precede it with....Jack

[Nick Gromicko]

Dan, you harm ASHI every time you post. Think about what you just did!

You unwittingly made up a fake, bogus association that despite it sounding like the worst diploma mill one could dream up... it actually has tougher requirements than the real ASHI you belong to! http://www.ashi.org/inspectors/join/...plication1.htm

Are you sure you're not a NACHI member at heart?

[dharris]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Dan, you harm ASHI every time you post. Think about what you just did!

You unwittingly made up a fake, bogus association that despite it sounding like the worst diploma mill one could dream up... it actually has tougher requirements than the real ASHI you belong to! http://www.ashi.org/inspectors/join/...plication1.htm

Are you sure you're not a NACHI member at heart?

Nick.. if your going to keep promoting ASHI you should at least tell the full story.... One of the most important benifits for a new inspector, [ASHI associates] after they complete their basic HI training, that you fail to post is ASHI members provide a mentorship program to new inspectors to help them practice in the field on live inspections, after the inspection the mentor reviews and crituques the new inspectors reports, all this is done with members that are highly respected [ and all have well over 1000 inspections ] in the profession, all this is provided at no or a minuimal charge to a new insector prior to marketing that inspector as "certified " to the public.

[Mario A. Kyriacou, CHI]

Originally Posted by dharris

Nick.. if your going to keep promoting ASHI you should at least tell the full story.... One of the most important benifits for a new inspector, [ASHI associates] after they complete their basic HI training, that you fail to post is ASHI members provide a mentorship program to new inspectors to help them practice in the field on live inspections, after the inspection the mentor reviews and crituques the new inspectors reports, all this is done with members that are highly respected [ and all have well over 1000 inspections ] in the profession, all this is provided at no or a minuimal charge to a new insector prior to marketing that inspector as "certified " to the public.

Dan

Can you give us the stats on how many new ashi members paid $0 for tag along and how many paid a fee? And what is minimal to you?

Now this a money making scheme,for those seasoned inspectors at ashi. What a coincidence just before Christmas!!!

Mario

[Brian E. Kelly]

Originally Posted by dharris

Brian.. I just spoke to the owner,, he was so impressed with your honesty that he stated that he would not only give you a lifetime membership for a one time fee of only 189.00 but he will also give you the title of " Elete Master Certified Electrical inspector", and your own personnal badge with " EMCEI" embroydered in gold, you will be the first not to mention this a title that only a very few certified master electrical inspectors will ever achive and all new inspectors from other orgs.will look up to you from now on.

Really Dan, Gold embroidery? WOW
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[dharris]

Originally Posted by bkelly2

Really Dan, Gold embroidery? WOW
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Yea. really, I couldn't belive it either... One time he says that he's going to cap membership and the next time he offers unbelivable benifits.

The best information I have is everybody needs to sign up real soon as one or two things are going to happen... either the experenced electrictal inspecors are going to get mad and demand higher standards, or the owner will in fact cap membership.. more than likley it will be the eletricians as the owner has threatend to take this action several time before , form what I gather he sees that other orgs are gaining members and threatining to put a cap on membership is just another attempt to raise revenues.

NOTE: On the dues the org is a non profit org, so everyone needs to send cash only so no profit is shown on the books.

[Nick Gromicko]

Dan, could you tell us the URL (webpage address) on the ASHI site where this mentoring is required?

And, are you going to have ASHI wives mentor Candidate wives in report writing what with so many ASHI inspectors declaring that they "ain't inta all dem dare new fangled computer thingamigs" ???

[Nick Gromicko]

And one last question, isn't ASHI mostly made up of Candidates?

Don't go off on a tangent... it is a YES or NO question.

[dharris]

Originally Posted by mkyriacou

Dan

Can you give us the stats on how many new ashi members paid $0 for tag along and how many paid a fee? And what is minimal to you?

Now this a money making scheme,for those seasoned inspectors at ashi. What a coincidence just before Christmas!!!

Mario

Mario.. I honestly can't answer that in full.

I know of three or more local inspectors that offer it for free and some will do it for a little as 50.00.

Some may think thats a lot of money but you have to consider the training inspector is liabile [ to the state] for any mistakes the new inspector makes on his or her report and if the inspector is providing a true in field traing he will have to spend an additional 2-3 hrs per inspection with the new inspector.

Personally I don't feel that I am fully qualified but I have offered to do it at no charge to 3 people in the last 6 months, when I emailed them to say I had an inspection they could go on they never contacted me. Go figure

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by dharris

Yea. really, I couldn't belive it either... One time he says that he's going to cap membership and the next time he offers unbelivable benifits.

The best information I have is everybody needs to sign up real soon as one or two things are going to happen... either the experenced electrictal inspecors are going to get mad and demand higher standards, or the owner will in fact cap membership.. more than likley it will be the eletricians as the owner has threatend to take this action several time before , form what I gather he sees that other orgs are gaining members and threatining to put a cap on membership is just another attempt to raise revenues.

NOTE: On the dues the org is a non profit org, so everyone needs to send cash only so no profit is shown on the books.

I think Dan could use a little help in learning how to use that newfangled spell checking device himself, Nick.

[Nick Gromicko]

No offense to individual ASHI members but you have to admit that the average ASHI member is computer illiterate and types with his thumbs, writes his reports with a pencil, or has his wife type it.

Candidates riding along with ASHI members is like the blind leading the blind.

You will notice, as predicted, Dan refused to answer the question about what percentage of ASHI's membership are come-only-with-cash, no quizzes, no exams, no mocks, no courses, no qualifications whatsoever Candidates.

[Mario A. Kyriacou, CHI]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Dan, could you tell us the URL (webpage address) on the ASHI site where this mentoring is required?

And, are you going to have ASHI wives mentor Candidate wives in report writing what with so many ASHI inspectors declaring that they "ain't inta all dem dare new fangled computer thingamigs" ???

Nick

Now this is funny!!!

[Claude Lawrenson]

Dan, Nick, et al - The following was attended by representatives of CAHPI for first hand opportunities to observe and participate in peer reviews. All I can offer is that we all can learn by and from each other and this is one example of sharing such experiences.

http://www.ashi-glc.com/members/peerreviews.html

http://www.ashinewengland.org/ashi_testing.html

http://www.chicagotribune.com/classi...?track=ctpromo

and there are many more.

[Mario A. Kyriacou, CHI]

Originally Posted by clawrenson

Dan, Nick, et al - The following was attended by representatives of CAHPI for first hand opportunities to observe and participate in peer reviews. All I can offer is that we all can learn by and from each other and this is one example of sharing such experiences.

http://www.ashi-glc.com/members/peerreviews.html

http://www.ashinewengland.org/ashi_testing.html

http://www.chicagotribune.com/classi...?track=ctpromo

and there are many more.

Claude

Stick around you will learn quite a bit here Claude.Dan just started a new home inspection org.

[dharris]

Originally Posted by gromicko

And one last question, isn't ASHI mostly made up of Candidates?

Don't go off on a tangent... it is a YES or NO question.

Meee go of on a tangent. you must have me confused with some one else

I'm not sure of exact percentages.. .. lets assume that 50% is true, with that being true that would make one experienced inspector [ with 250 plus inspections and many of them with 1000s of inspection experience] for every new inspector... what a better way for a new inspector to learn from his peers.

Can you provide that one on one benifit for you new members???