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Old 8/26/06, 12:05 PM
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See what I mean?

He is complaining, in his last ramble, that - although he had attended NACHI seminars and learned from them - he could not learn anything from the the other attendees. This makes, in his opinion, the seminar unworthy of his attendance...

I wonder how many other attendees, noting him in the audience, felt the exact same way.....

Maybe, before engaging this jilted lover in any more conversation, we should consider how dharris was once a member of NACHI and was involuntarily dismissed. Since then, he has devoted his life to the argument "You can't fire me...I quit!"

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Maybe, before engaging this jilted lover in any more conversation, we should consider how dharris was once a member of NACHI and was involuntarily dismissed. Since then, he has devoted his life to the argument "You can't fire me...I quit!"
Jilted lover???? If i'm correct nickey was an ashi member
I'm Just another inspector that recognized that there two totally diferent sides to the story.
One side is exaggerated, often false claims by a dictator that publicly states its none of the cusomers business if the inspector doesn't know what he or she is doing before marketing that inspector as qualified and "certified" [ for a promise and a fee] and the other is provided by professionals that joined together, that were and still are committed to making our profession what it should be to provide our customers the HI experience they deserve.
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Old 8/26/06, 5:51 PM
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Jilted lover???? If i'm correct nickey was an ashi member
I'm Just another inspector that recognized that there two totally diferent sides to the story.
One side is exaggerated, often false claims by a dictator that publicly states its none of the cusomers business if the inspector doesn't know what he or she is doing before marketing that inspector as qualified and "certified" [ for a promise and a fee] and the other is provided by professionals that joined together, that were and still are committed to making our profession what it should be to provide our customers the HI experience they deserve.
You could be a help to many home inspectors but you seem to get you jollies by trying to convert those like me who are very satisfied with NACHI and all the Great members here.
You Know that this is the only association that allows members and Non members to voice their openion .
If this was done at ASHI I expect you would be told to stop or they would stop you from posting .
It would be nicer if your posts at least had some information or at least not be repetitive . You are just like the every Bunny you just keep going . You are so much like the old 8 tract players, all worn out and not able to get new songs for them.
Just like the tired out old hound you need to come home where at some least people understand what is wrong with you .
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Old 8/26/06, 8:01 PM
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We love you Harris my arms are open wide



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You Know that this is the only association that allows members and Non members to voice their openion .
Not true.

And it is remarks like this that cause others to question the comments and claims of this org.

That is if I understand what an "openion" is? Does it require egress?
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Old 8/26/06, 8:24 PM
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professionals that joined together, that were and still are committed to making our profession what it should be to provide our customers the HI experience they deserve.
Any of you guys ever have an ex-wife or ex-girlfriend that just wants to be sure that the other women out there know how bad you are so they don't get hurt?

So honorable, aren't they? No, they are not bitter...just concerned for the welfare of people they don't know.

This is a crock of ****. I'm starting to feel sorry for these losers...
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Old 8/26/06, 8:26 PM
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That is if I understand what an "openion" is? Does it require egress?
Jeff!!!! Jeff!!!! How dare you correct someone else's spelling.
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Old 8/26/06, 8:32 PM
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Not true.

And it is remarks like this that cause others to question the comments and claims of this org.

That is if I understand what an "openion" is? Does it require egress?
Gee great to hear would you mind sharing the web site of the other association .
I wonder why you did noy put this information up if it is so . Thanks Roy Cooke
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Old 8/26/06, 8:49 PM
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Oh hell, come on folks.

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Old 8/26/06, 11:32 PM
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Forgot this is the for everyone section DOH!

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Old 8/27/06, 12:00 AM
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Never going to happen > ASHI will never even consider it.
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Dan,

Thanks for refusing to answer any of my questions which I will repeat here just to make you look foolish:


1. Of the 6,000 members ASHI claims to have, how many are Candidates? Give us a number please?

2. Why does ASHI count their come-only-with-cash Candidates as "members"? Are they or aren't they?

3. Is it still true that ASHI still has No entrance requirements whatsoever (other than send cash)? See: http://www.ashi.org/inspectors/join/...plication1.htm Yes or No?

4. Is it still true that ASHI encourages its many come-only-with-cash, unqualified Candidates to go out and perform a certain number of actual fee-paid inspection for poor unsuspecting consumers as the only way to achieve full membership? Yes or No?


Simple questions Dan. How about some answers?



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Default Re: Nick are your serious with the post reguarding ce providers????

Anyone that claims Nick is a dictator doesn't really know him. He has his heart in the right place and wants to help as many people as possible. Sometimes things fall through, but isn't that true of anything of life?

At least he's trying.
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Old 8/27/06, 5:04 AM
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I have heard ASHI is after all old Canadian ASHI members and is offering special prices to all OAHI RHIs who are not members of ASHI .
I have been told they are giving the rest of this year and next year for if you ask only $100:00 .
Strange that this should be comming out now when OAHI has shut down its search engine for a Home Inspector, I have also been told there is some very serious infighting going on in the OAHI CAHPI directors.
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Many members are paying extra to OAHI to be listed in more then one section of the web site search engine .

Just one more reason why I love NACHI these are all free with NACHI.

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Dan,

Thanks for refusing to answer any of my questions which I will repeat here just to make you look foolish:


1. Of the 6,000 members ASHI claims to have, how many are Candidates? Give us a number please?

I'm in Todds part of the state and I don't have the ASHI reporter handy that give every member the exact number every month I don't know the exact #, I am aware its apx 50-50.

2. Why does ASHI count their come-only-with-cash Candidates as "members"? Are they or aren't they?

3. Is it still true that ASHI still has No entrance requirements whatsoever (other than send cash)? See: http://www.ashi.org/inspectors/join/...plication1.htm Yes or No?

To the best of my knowelge you are partially correct. The big difference is'
Nicks policy prior to marketing the inspector as certified , ....Take my online quiz.. promise that you will complete my other requirements and I'll certify you and market you to the public as a certified inspector....little does the customer know that nachis policy is ....
NACHI does not make a public distinction between these two levels of membership. No law requires you to publicly announce what your NACHI member level is so you are simply a "Member." This is true for many other professions. For instance, a lawyer is not required to warn his first client about his lack of experience. Also, no law recognizes experience and knowledge gained outside the performance of inspections (many inspectors were once involved in construction). Since every inspector's experience is different there is likely no correlation between real experience and level of membership. Furthermore, since no law requires a public disclosure of an inspector's experience (or lack of it), NACHI does not require it either. If you are only a new working member you need not alarm your clients. If you are a full member there is nothing preventing you from touting it. You must be one or the other though. NACHI does not "brand" new inspectors with derogatory terms such as "Associate" or "Candidate" because NACHI has an entrance exam. Many agents blacklist associates and candidates. If you are a member you may call yourself a "Certified Member" or a "Certified Home Inspector."

Maybe it's just me.... as an inspector I would rather have my competion qualified or committed to meeting minuium qualificaitions opossed to competing with an inspector that only has the qualificiation of passing an on line quiz

4. Is it still true that ASHI encourages its many come-only-with-cash, unqualified Candidates to go out and perform a certain number of actual fee-paid inspection for poor unsuspecting consumers as the only way to achieve full membership? Yes or No?

As you are very aware, ASHI will accept new inspectors as members,with one major difference....Prior to marketing that inspector the the public as a certified/qualified inspector the inspector must pass a proctered nationally accepted exam, summit reports for peer review to verify the inspectors reports meet ASHI standards, provide documenation that the inspector did in fact complete 50 0r 250 reports depending on the membership level the inspector qualifies for....ie ... associate inspector or full member.


Simple questions Dan. How about some answers?
While were on the topic of simple answers I have four for you.
Why do I never see on the ASHI BB, or other HI boards [ASHI members or ASHI associates ] crying the blues that the goverment is going to put them out of business if licensing [ bare minuium requirments to qualify as an inspector] is enacted in their state.

#2 .... when a respected member of your org asked a simular question of NACHI members on your BB there were no replys... Why???
Recent examples... The crying of NH, Fla and WV inspectors,

#3....AZ ASHI has a policy of providing all AZ members,[ new or experienced inspectors].... mentering assistance to meet full membership, ride alongs, providing unlimited answers to any questions , marketing, technical info by phone or email , answers from AZ ASHIs local attorney on local legal questions, etc, 24/7 ... does AZ NACHI offer that to their members????
#4.... ASHI national offers a payment plan... Something like 90$ down and 60$ every couple months.. do you offer that to members???

Spell check doesn't work. So the heck with correct spelling.

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