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Old 6/24/07, 11:39 AM
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Hi all.
I'm a newbie thinking about getting into home inspections on my days off from the fire station. I've been around building and construction all my life and am pretty well mechanically inclined. Live in Green bay, WI, and as far as i know the state requirement is to take the state test and apply for a license.
My question is, are all of these online courses "legit" and worth the money. Or should i practice up on my own with the help of free online data bases and some text books. Also whats a good way to get hands on training and practice, Id feel a little out of place trying to talk with a future competetor for a couple of "ride alongs" to see what its really like in the field.
Any and all replays are much appreciated.

Thanks and have a great day,
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Old 6/24/07, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Jerame Schueler
Hi all.
I'm a newbie thinking about getting into home inspections on my days off from the fire station. I've been around building and construction all my life and am pretty well mechanically inclined. Live in Green bay, WI, and as far as i know the state requirement is to take the state test and apply for a license.
My question is, are all of these online courses "legit" and worth the money. Or should i practice up on my own with the help of free online data bases and some text books. Also whats a good way to get hands on training and practice, Id feel a little out of place trying to talk with a future competetor for a couple of "ride alongs" to see what its really like in the field.
Any and all replays are much appreciated.

Thanks and have a great day,
Jerame
Sorry Jerame you are just one of many who want to do this same thing .
Please look at how long that most on this BB have been in business. 90% or more who start into home inspections do not last three years.
It is costly and very time consuming to get into ..
I have been in it for 8 years and have seen many many invest up too $10,000:00 and a lot of time to see that the light at the end of the tunnel and it is a train comming.
You will see many who want you to take there course or use their reporting system. You will see there are some who like me tell it like it is .
If you or others want to communicate off the BB please do not hesitate . Roycooke@sympatico.ca
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Old 6/25/07, 4:37 PM
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Sorry, I didnt specify enough....
I am an optimistic.
Any positive feedback that wont completely crush my interest in this profession would be greatly appreciated.

My cup is still half full......

Jerame
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Old 6/26/07, 1:16 AM
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Sorry, I didn't specify enough....
I am an optimistic.
Any positive feedback that wont completely crush my interest in this profession would be greatly appreciated.

My cup is still half full......

Jerame
That is what it takes, optimism and dedication. I have only been an inspector for less than a year, though i have been in the remodeling and complete home renovation bus. for over 20. It is like any profession, there are people that succeed and those that fail. As far as courses, first find out which ones are approved by your state, if it is a licensed state. In my opinion on-line courses are better than a 6 day crash course and are far less expensive than any school. You can take your time and read through all of the books and learn. How much you already know about building construction,electricity,etc. does make a lot of difference. The biggest hurdle is marketing and building a client base. It takes time and persistence. Take the NACHI on-line examination to help you know where you stand.
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Sorry, I didnt specify enough....
I am an optimistic.
Any positive feedback that wont completely crush my interest in this profession would be greatly appreciated.

My cup is still half full......

Jerame
there you go jerame, you can do anything you set your mind too, don't let the inspectors who are afraid of competition discourage you, you came to the right place for info, if you can't find it on nachi.org then it is not there. godspeed
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Sorry Jerame you are just one of many who want to do this same thing .
Please look at how long that most on this BB have been in business. 90% or more who start into home inspections do not last three years.
It is costly and very time consuming to get into ..
I have been in it for 8 years and have seen many many invest up too $10,000:00 and a lot of time to see that the light at the end of the tunnel and it is a train comming.
You will see many who want you to take there course or use their reporting system. You will see there are some who like me tell it like it is .
If you or others want to communicate off the BB please do not hesitate . Roycooke@sympatico.ca
what's up with this roy are you trying to privately steer people away from nachi now.
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Old 6/26/07, 5:07 PM
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what's up with this roy are you trying to privately steer people away from nachi now.
Jeez, Ken, it looks to me like Roy was offering help personally if someone wanted.

I hope your health hasn't affected your mental state negatively.

Godspeed.



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well thanks for your input guys. didnt mean to turn this into a debate. Im sure everyone was just being supportive in there own, maybe middle twisted, way. XD I'll keep on probing this question. As i stated before im a full time firefighter. And am still debating if this will be worth the time and effort in the long run for something to do on my days off. thanks all for your help.

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Old 6/27/07, 10:23 PM
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Just go for it , dont let any nay sayers get you down.I have been inspecting for 16 years and i love every minuite of it. There are good days and bad days and days when you still learn something new.Learn all you can prior to starting. Practice on friends and family till you get a good routine.You had to be a rookie fireman first and you still learn all the time right.Study all the courses nachi has to offer and ask a lot of questions on this bb,Matt
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damn cooke, you been downsizing poeple and your own industry for some time now, what is wrong with you, there are so many grreat people on here, and so many people tryin to become or join this great thing and all i ever see is you down sizing everyone and everything...


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Sorry Jerame you are just one of many who want to do this same thing .
Please look at how long that most on this BB have been in business. 90% or more who start into home inspections do not last three years.
It is costly and very time consuming to get into ..
I have been in it for 8 years and have seen many many invest up too $10,000:00 and a lot of time to see that the light at the end of the tunnel and it is a train comming.
You will see many who want you to take there course or use their reporting system. You will see there are some who like me tell it like it is .
If you or others want to communicate off the BB please do not hesitate . Roycooke@sympatico.ca
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Old 12/14/07, 5:03 PM
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This industry does take a lot of time and effort plus a thick skin because many people will try and give you all the negatives which is very helpful if you have the ability to pick through it. But if you have the drive, knowledge and sticktuitiveness you may survive. Oh and be realistic with goals and expected success levels it does take time!

As far as education I would DEFINITELY recommend it. There is always something to be learned even if its not required. Personally I liked the AHIT (based out of New Berlin, WI) at home course it was very informative most I already knew but there was a lot of information I didn't also IL requires 8hrs of lab time so i did two inspection walk-throughs with the instructor here and met with other students and bounced ideas off them as well. Just do your research in selecting your educational institution to verify they are not some fly by nighter.

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damn cooke, you been downsizing poeple and your own industry for some time now, what is wrong with you, there are so many grreat people on here, and so many people tryin to become or join this great thing and all i ever see is you down sizing everyone and everything...
Adam all I can say is shame on you .
You have exactly no idea what you are talking about .
I have been doing Home inspections for some time .
Why would you want me to lie to some one when they need to be told the truth .
I have no idea what you know but my advice is to read just a little more before you put your other foot in your mouth .
Now Thats of my Chest .

I have given My phone number out to help many Home Inspectors .
I am at this time mentoring two home inspectors on a regular basis.
I have from the get go been positive but I also tell it like it is .
With your attitude unless you change drastically you will have a tough time making it as a home inspector .
For starts go here and read
http://www.nachi.org/forum/showthrea...ghlight=Mentor
If and when you want help I will do what I can to give it to you.

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Below is a list of some FREE on-line courses that have some relevancy for Home Inspectors. Some of these courses are more relevant to inspectors who perform commercial inspections. These courses are meant for supplemental continuing education knowledge and should not be used as a replacement for any required education that your area may require.



ELECTRICAL
Free on-line courses for "Basics of Electricity"

Free on-line courses for "Basics of Electrical Products"

Free on-line courses for "Busway"

Free on-line courses for "Load Centers"

Free on-line courses for "Molded Case Circuit Breakers"

Free on-line courses for "Panelboards"

Free on-line courses for "Power Monitoring and Management with ACCESS"

Free on-line courses for "Safety Switches"

Free on-line courses for "Switchboards"



STRUCTURAL
Free on-line course for "The Attic: Three Components, One System "

Free on-line course for "Essentials of Masonry"

Free on-line course for "Professional Carpentry"

Free on-line course for "Why Build With Steel? Utilizing Light-Gauge Steel Framing Systems"

Free on-line course for "Wood in Architecture"

Free on-line course for "Protection Against Termites and Decay"

Free on-line course for "Engineered Wood Basics"

Free on-line course for "Design of Wood Connections"

Free on-line course for "Metric and Wood"

Free on-line course for "LEED Certification and Sustainable Steel Building Systems"

Free on-line course for "Finger Jointed Lumber "

Free on-line course for "Engineered Wood Products"

Free on-line course for "Connection Design"

Free on-line course for "Designing for Permanence"

Free on-line course for "Lateral Load Resisting Systems for Wood Structures"

Free on-line course for "Designing for Torsional Stability in Wood Members"

Free on-line course for "Earthquake and Wind Design with Wood"

Free on-line course for "Conventional Floor Framing"

Free on-line course for "Conventional Wall Framing"

Free on-line course for "Lateral Load Bracing"

Free on-line course for "Roof / Ceiling Framing"

Free on-line course for "Introduction to the Wood Frame Construction Manual"

Free on-line course for "The Basics of Wood Frame Construction"

Free on-line course for "What Is Conventional Construction?"

Free on-line course for "Characteristics of Wood"

Free on-line course for "Grade Marks "

Free on-line course for "Designing with the National Design Specification (NDS) for Wood Construction (NDS 1997)"

Free on-line course for "Designing with the National Design Specification (NDS) for Wood Construction (NDS 2001) "

Free on-line course for "LRFD Manual for Engineered Wood Construction"

Free on-line course for "Introduction to ICFs: Insulating Concrete Forms"

Free on-line course for "Wood Frame Construction Manual 1995 SBC High Wind Edition"

Free on-line course for "Wood Frame Construction Manual 2001 National Edition"

Free on-line course for "Design of Wood Frame Buildings for High Wind, Snow, and Seismic Loadings"

Free on-line course for "Form with Function: Dramatic Design with Cable and Rod Systems"

Free on-line course for "Integrally Colored Concrete"

Free on-line course for "Pre-Molded: Bell Footing Form System "

Free on-line course for "The Exterior Wall: A Systems Approach "

Free on-line course for "Design of Large Exterior Openings"

Free on-line course for "Principles of Universal Design in Housing and Home "

Free on-line course for "Creating Custom Curves: Adding Interest to Architectural Designs"

Free on-line course for "Introduction to Decking & Railing Systems "

Free on-line course for "Evolution of Footing Forms "

Free on-line course for "Light-Gauge Steel Framing Connection Products"

Free on-line course for "Utilizing Light-Gauge Steel Framing Systems "

Free on-line course for "Aluminum Expansion Joint Covers"

Free on-line course for "Pressure Treated Wood"


INSULATION & VENTILATION
Free on-line course for "Principles of Attic Ventilation "

Free on-line course for "Exterior Insulation Finish System "

Free on-line course for "Reflective Insulation, Radiant Barriers & Control Coatings"

Free on-line course for "Understanding Thermal Performance and XPS "


MOLD & MOISTITURE CONTROL
Free on-line course for "Assuring Water Resistance of Masonry Construction"

Free on-line course for "Wind Driven Rain Louvers "

Free on-line course for "Control of Condensation, Mold and Energy Leakage to Improve Building Performance"

Free on-line course for "Waterproofing Exterior Cementitious Wall Surfaces"

Free on-line course for "The ABC's of Trench Drainage"

Free on-line course for Mold and Moisture

Free on-line course for "The Science of Specifying Moisture and Mould Control in Framed Wall Assemblies"

Free on-line course for "The Science of Specifying Moisture & Mold Control in Framed Wall Assemblies"

Free on-line course for "Fluid Applied Waterproof/Air Barriers for Moisture Control and Mold Prevention in Wall Construction"

Free on-line course for "Moisture Management in Sidewall Construction"

Free on-line course for "Antimicrobial Material: A Way To Inhibit Mold And Mildew Growth "

Free on-line course for "Waterproofing the Building Envelope"


ROOFING
Free on-line course for ""NACHI roofing course"

Free on-line course for "New Dimensions in Asphalt Shingles "

Free on-line course for "Low Slope Bituminous Roof Systems "

Free on-line course for "Roofing and Glazing Polycarbonate Sheeting Systems"

Free on-line course for "Cool Thermoplastic Roofing Systems for Sustainable Buildings"

Free on-line course for "The Use of Self Adhering Systems in Low Slope Roofing "

Free on-line course for "Single-Ply Commercial Roofing"

Free on-line course for "Asphalt Shingles & Roofing Products "

Free on-line course for "Reflective-Protective Roof Coating Systems"

Free on-line course for "Designing Sustainable Roofing Insulation Systems using Plastic Materials "

Free on-line course for "Walkable Roof Deck Membranes"

Free on-line course for "Concrete Roof Tile Orientation "

Free on-line course for "Use of Snow Retention Devices: Science or Fiction? "


HEATING
Free on-line course for "Solar Heating Metal Wall Systems "

Free on-line course for "HVAC Ductwork: Issues, Answers & Practical Consderations "

Free on-line course for "The Heart of the Home: Specifying Today's Gas Fireplaces"



WINDOWS & DOORS
Free on-line course for "Windows: An Inside View "

Free on-line course for "Designer Garage Doors "

Free on-line course for "Float Glass Manufacturing and Architectural Glass Products"

Free on-line course for "Specialized Steel Doors and Frames"

Free on-line course for "Specifying Windows "

Free on-line course for "Impact Resistant Glazing Systems for Coastal Construction"

Free on-line course for "Advanced Fenestration Technology "

Free on-line course for "Historic Window Rehabilitation"

Free on-line course for "Automatic & Revolving Doors "

Free on-line course for "Comparative Study of Wood and Aluminum Windows in Commercial Buildings "

Free on-line course for "Commercial Upward-Acting Sectional Doors"

Free on-line course for "Understanding Special Purpose Doors and Windows"

Free on-line course for "The Functional Characteristics of Horizontal Blinds"



HEALTH, SAFTEY & DISABLILTY ACCESS
Free on-line course for "Specification of Safety Floor Coverings"

Free on-line course for "Design Standards for Wheelchair Lifts and Elevators"

Free on-line course for "Acoustical Ceiling and Wall Systems"

Free on-line course for "Low Location Emergency Exit Path Marking System Using High Performance Photoluminescent Technology "

Free on-line course for "Acoustical Basics for Ceiling and Wall Systems"

Free on-line course for "Sound Control and Acoustics for Architects"

Free on-line course for HUD Lead-Based Paint Visual Assessment

Free on-line course for "Flooring Safety: Code Requirements and Guidelines For Interior Finishes"

Free on-line course for "PEDESTRIAN CABLE RAILINGS (Guardrails with cable in-fill)"

Free on-line course for "Providing Stage Access in Schools, Churches and Performing Arts Centers"

Free on-line course for "Design of Horizontal Accessibility (ADA) "

Free on-line course for "Inclined and Vertical Platform Lifts (ADA) "

Free on-line course for "Bullet Resistant Products, Applications and Other Physical Security Threats "

Free on-line course for "Thermoplastic Technology in Architectural Railing Systems"

Free on-line course for "Quiet in the Classroom: Acoustics for Learning Environments"

Free on-line course for "Acoustics: Noise Control "


FIRE
Free on-line course for "Fire Design for Code Acceptance "

Free on-line course for "Fireblocking and Draftstopping"

Free on-line course for "Life-Saving Design: Advanced Egress-Routing Systems"

Free on-line course for "Fire-Resistant Ceiling and Wall Assemblies Using Gypsum Board Products"

Free on-line course for "About UL Fire Resistance Directories "

Free on-line course for "Fire Rated Wood - Interior and Exterior "


INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR FINSIHES
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Free on-line course for "Recycled Rubber Flooring"

Free on-line course for "Understanding Quartz Surfaces"

Free on-line course for "Specification of Vinyl Floor Coverings"

Free on-line course for "The 5 Levels of Finishing Gypsum Wallboard "

Free on-line course for "Cement Board-From Showers to Whirlpool Decks "

Free on-line course for "Designing with Siding "

Free on-line course for "Flooring Over Concrete Slabs: Avoiding Failure Through Moisture Mitigation and Proper Design"

Free on-line course for "Fiber Cement Siding"

Free on-line course for "The Science and Technology of Coatings Performance"

Free on-line course for "Building Material Basics, Vinyl "

Free on-line course for "Cement Board Stucco System "

Free on-line course for "Abuse and Impact Resistant Gypsum Systems "

Free on-line course for "One Coat Stucco: The Most Efficient Stucco System Available"

Free on-line course for "Tongue-and-Groove Porch Flooring "

Free on-line course for "A green alternative for surface finishing - Powder Coating"

Free on-line course for "Rain Screen Assemblies and Composite Cladding"

Free on-line course for "Understanding Quartz Surfacing Material "

Free on-line course for "Metal Lath, Beads and Trims: Stucco and Plaster Products and Applications "

Free on-line course for "EIFS: Critical Details"

Free on-line course for "Anti-Graffiti Coatings and Graffiti Removal Technology"

Free on-line course for "Paint 101: What is Paint?"


PLUMBING
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Free on-line course for "The Ever-Expanding Reach of Ergonomics: From Architecture to Faucet Design"

Free on-line course for "Custom Shower Systems"

Free on-line course for "Radiant Floor Heating Systems, PEX Piping and Other Uses for PEX Pipe "

Free on-line course for "The Greening of the Water Closet "


OTHER
Free on-line course for "NACHI's Ethics Obstacle Course"

Free on-line course for "NACHI's SOP"

Free on-line course for "Vinyl Fence Systems "

Free on-line course for "The Systems Approach to Designing a House:Part I,II and III"

Free on-line course for "Construction Joints: Head Of Wall Deflection Systems "

Free on-line course for "Understanding Steel Stud, Moisture Resistance, and XPS "

Free on-line course for "Structural and Fire Resistance Considerations with Steel Stud Construction When Using XPS "

Free on-line course for "The Evolution to Specialty Grid Systems"

Free on-line course for "Partnering with Material Consultants "

Free on-line course for "Alternative Exterior Decking Materials "

Free on-line course for "Wood, Building Codes and Research"

Free on-line course for "Wood in Modern Commercial Construction"

Free on-line course for "Façade Anchoring Systems and Adjustable Concealed Lintels"

Free on-line course for "Speech Privacy in Healthcare Environments"

Free on-line course for "Designing Interfaces for Glass and Metal Curtain Wall Systems"

Free on-line course for "Design and Specification of ACM / MCM in Today's Architecture"

Free on-line course for "Expansion Joint Covers"

Free on-line course for "IBC Seismic Code and Ceiling Installation Requirements"

Free on-line course for "Speech Privacy in Office Design"

Free on-line course for "Building Green Exteriors Using Fiber Cement Products"

Free on-line course for "Providing Courtroom Access to Witness Stands and Judges' Benches"

Free on-line course for "The Restoration of Frank Lloyd Wright's Fallingwater"

Free on-line course for "Specifying Pews for Worship Facilities"

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Free on-line course for "Color Foundations"

Free on-line course for "The Greening of 'White Goods': Environmental Considerations When Specifying Appliances"

Free on-line course for "LEED Certification: Fenestration's Contribution to a Greener Future"

Free on-line course for "Polycarbonate Sheeting"

Free on-line course using "Inspection Depot frames"

Free on-line course for "Soils and Hydrology"

Free on-line course for "Building Codes & Wood Design"

Free on-line course for "Building Code Update "

Free on-line course for "The International Residential Code and Wood Construction"

Free on-line course for "Wood Structural Design in the International Building Code 2000"

Free on-line course for "Understanding Construction Documents - Module 1: An Overview of the Construction Process"

Free on-line course for "Understanding Construction Documents - Module 2: Construction Contracts"

Free on-line course for "Understanding Construction Documents - Module 3: Construction Contract Modification"

Free on-line course for "Understanding Construction Documents - Module 5: Conditions of the Contract"

Free on-line course for "Understanding Construction Documents - Module 6: Division One - General Requirements"

Free on-line course for Wildlife Damage Inspection
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Sorry, I didnt specify enough....
I am an optimistic.
Any positive feedback that wont completely crush my interest in this profession would be greatly appreciated.

My cup is still half full......

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Good for you. LOL
Do not quite your day job right away and you should do fine.
NACHI is the place to join to get affordable education.
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