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Old 9/11/06, 12:41 PM
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Dale,

The course is part of a road of continuing education for home inspectors. It is a good course, with valuable information.

So tell me... if your cometitor offers well water testing as a part of a package, and you do not, and a client was looking for a single source, would you not perform the sampling. And sampling is what we are speaking of, not testing.

The major difference between mold and water contamination, is that there are existing and verifiable standards for the classification and limits of any variety of conditions which can be found while testing water. No so for mold, I'm afraid. No acceptable or unacceptable standards exist, and are recognized by the EPA or CDC with regard to ANY mold level.

After taking the water sample, the tests are performed by certified laboratories. The liability falls on the lab. But, were you aware that the EPA is suggesting that some samples not only show proof that the cooling process has started for the sample, but that the lab not accept certain samples if temperature is above 10 degrees C ?

Or, lets say you DONT perform sampling. Do you not think its beneficial to know what red flags to look for? Like a manure stack within 75 feet of the well head. Or the installation of a non-sanitary well casing cover? Or recognizing the sources of possible contamination? Or knowing what contaminents are all about? Or knowing how total dissolved solids in water affect certain contaminent testing? Or advising your client, who is 8 months pregnant, to be sure and have the water tested for high concentrations of nitrates or nitrites? I could go on and on, and I do over the entire training day.

Isnt it beneficial to know that many sources of contamination are caused from faulty workmanship by the well driller and/or pump installer? Tell me, do you know how well casings are repaired? Do you know how many feet above sea level a jet pump can raise water? As I said, I can go on and on.

Even if you dont plan to take samples, the course contains great information for all inspectors. It covers wells, types, aquifer, pumps, tanks, testing, contaminents, health effects, abandoned wells, emerging standards, etc.

Sorry you feel its worthless information.

I have FREA E&O, and they are aware I perform well sampling. Never heard a peep from them. I do not perform the tests. I gather the samples and deliver them to a NELAC-Certified testing facility.

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Old 9/11/06, 3:14 PM
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Dale,

Sorry you feel its worthless information.
Didn't say it was worthless information Joe.

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I would rather inspect a home with two Zinsco's a FPE panel feeding the leaking pool, connected to single strand Aluminum wiring in a home with leaking galvanized pipe being heated with a non-vented gas wall heater than take a sample of their water for a few bucks, but that's just me.
Seems like the liability would be higher than the reward, just IMO anyway.
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Old 9/11/06, 3:37 PM
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Default Re: Well sampling course coming to a NACHI Chapter near you.

Dale I do not believe they are telling you, you must do sampling if you take the class. Can't beat the price for some CEU's. I think it would be interesting and would gladly go if it was offered nearby.
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Old 9/11/06, 4:09 PM
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Dale I do not believe they are telling you, you must do sampling if you take the class. Can't beat the price for some CEU's. I think it would be interesting and would gladly go if it was offered nearby.
Well it would be interesting how they build nuclear power plants too, but since I'm not inspecting them I wouldn't spend a day learning...
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Old 9/11/06, 10:50 PM
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Brian,

I you have wells in AZ, and think folks would be interested in a course like this one, I'll gladly come down.
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Old 9/11/06, 11:42 PM
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Brian,

I you have wells in AZ, and think folks would be interested in a course like this one, I'll gladly come down.
Have you returned to flying?



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Old 9/12/06, 1:09 AM
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And will you be drinking bottled water on the plane?



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Old 9/12/06, 1:25 AM
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I you have wells in AZ, and think folks would be interested in a course like this one, I'll gladly come down.
Lots of wells here Joe, especially up near Dale.
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Old 9/12/06, 7:44 AM
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Brian,

If you'd like me to come for a Saturday Seminar, I'd be happy to go.


Nick,

Thats really funny...

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Default Re: Well sampling course coming to a NACHI Chapter near you.

spoke with Mr. Bob Archer, 573-368-2171 who works for MO DNR Well Head Protection Division who is responsible for the testing of Water today. He stated that the course, in his opinion, would work for his requirement. In Newton & Jasper County, where I live, it is required that tests be conducted for Lead & Cadmium, which is required for official results for water sampling. Only in certain areas are the lead & cadmium results required. He did state that we needed some type of completion verification would be required.
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Question - Every time I try to post a response in any topic in the "General Section", it won't let me do so and gives me a message box telling me I may not be logged in or not have permission to view or reply to those topics.

But every other section I go to - Education, Specific Tips, etc lets me do so just fine - anybody got any thoughts???
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Question - Every time I try to post a response in any topic in the "General Section", it won't let me do so and gives me a message box telling me I may not be logged in or not have permission to view or reply to those topics.

But every other section I go to - Education, Specific Tips, etc lets me do so just fine - anybody got any thoughts???

For only 289.00 you can go to the other sections and this month only you can Become a "certified " inspector " by completing a few minor quizes [ if you cant pass them have some one else take them for you, nobody will ever know] and promising to do other non verified requirments in the future.
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Old 10/14/06, 12:10 PM
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LJ Ross, there is a tutorial at the bottom of www.nachi.org/loginconfusion.htm that might help.



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