bkelly2
(Brian Kelly, AZ Cert. # 60234)
September 28, 2012, 6:55pm
1
Where should the controls be located?
If you know the answer and are sure, please wait a day to post the answer.
jjonas
(Jeffrey Jonas)
September 28, 2012, 7:51pm
2
Okay… you listed two different questions. Which one do you want an answer to?
bgraham
(Bruce Graham, III, CMI)
September 28, 2012, 9:40pm
3
bboerner
(Billy Boerner)
September 29, 2012, 1:57am
5
Button to open the door can be wired either in the house or garage.
bkelly2
(Brian Kelly, AZ Cert. # 60234)
September 29, 2012, 7:45pm
6
This is what prompted me to ask this Question. As shown/installed this is not correct.
ccurrins
(Christopher Currins, CMI)
September 29, 2012, 8:17pm
7
Does that mean 3 answers are incorrect?
bkelly2
(Brian Kelly, AZ Cert. # 60234)
September 29, 2012, 8:29pm
10
ccurrins:
:D:D:mrgreen:
Bruce posted the answer yesterday
belliott
(Bob Elliott, 450.0002662)
September 29, 2012, 8:36pm
11
Long as it works and it is OK with the owner they all have remotes usually.
Just walked in from having a side spring replaced that was changed in June.
I made the guy put on a safety cable last June that may have saved my life 2 days ago.
The push button not in the garage would be a pain for testing and should be nearby however but not some deal breaker (minor)
cevans
(Chuck Evans, CMI)
September 29, 2012, 9:29pm
12
What do you see wrong with it?
The overhead door IS within sight of the button, when the person door is open;
The button IS NOT near any moving parts of the overhead door;
The button APPEARS to be at least 5 feet above the floor.
Just like when using the remote control, you should only activate the door operator when the overhead door is in full view and clear of people, pets and obstructions.
bkelly2
(Brian Kelly, AZ Cert. # 60234)
September 29, 2012, 9:41pm
13
cevans:
What do you see wrong with it?
The overhead door IS within sight of the button, when the person door is open;
The button IS NOT near any moving parts of the overhead door;
The button APPEARS to be at least 5 feet above the floor.
Just like when using the remote control, you should only activate the door operator when the overhead door is in full view and clear of people, pets and obstructions.
I consider the Door an Obstruction.
But I do enjoy the discussion Chuck.
jjonas
(Jeffrey Jonas)
September 29, 2012, 10:23pm
14
Keep in mind those guidelines (within sight of) are from days past, before safety features/sensors/auto-reverse were required.
belliott
(Bob Elliott, 450.0002662)
September 29, 2012, 10:32pm
16
They do all have a manual release…hmm do you guys inspect them for operation.
ccurrins
(Christopher Currins, CMI)
September 30, 2012, 12:36am
17
cevans:
What do you see wrong with it?
The overhead door IS within sight of the button, when the** person door is open;**
Just like when using the remote control, you should only activate the door operator when the overhead door is in full view and clear of people, pets and obstructions.
What if the door is closed, and it doesn’t have a window?
jhagarty
(Joseph Hagarty, CMI)
September 30, 2012, 12:49am
18
For Chamberlain Overhead Doors Installation Manual…
**Wall Switch must be within visual sight of the door…
… Door must be kept within visual sight until fully closed…**
A switch (not within the garage) arguably negates the installation requirement.
Switch should be within the Garage and within sight of the door.
jhagarty
(Joseph Hagarty, CMI)
September 30, 2012, 12:51am
19
An entry door between the Home and Garage should not have a window unless the glass is appropriately Fire rated…
cevans
(Chuck Evans, CMI)
September 30, 2012, 1:51am
20
Here are the full regs: http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&rgn=div6&view=text&node=16:2.0.1.2.49.1&idno=16
There is nothing stating the button cannot be within the house. Only that the button must be within sight of the door and that the person operating the controller should always keep the moving door in sight. Given the detail in the Federal regulation, if they intended that there be a requirement that the button be placed within the garage, you can bet that is exactly what the regulation would say.
The door is fully visible to the person operating the button.
BTW: EVERY garage door operator manufactured for sale in the US since 1993 will include these requirements, regardless of the company that manufactures it. They are all required to adhere to the Federal Statute. The quote below is excerpted directly from the regulation (with emphasis added by me)
Also, I should amend my previous comment as I would have written the installation up as being deficient because it lacks the required safety sticker, but not because it isn’t physically within the garage.
(b) Specific required instructions. (1) The Installation Instructions shall include the following instructions:
Important Installation Instructions
Warning—To reduce the risk of severe injury or death:
Read and follow all Installation Instructions.
Install only a properly balanced garage door. An improperly balanced door could cause severe injury. Have a qualified service person make repairs to cables, spring assemblies and other hardware before installing opener.
Remove all ropes and remove or make inoperative all locks connected to the garage door before installing opener.
Where possible, install door opener 7 feet or more above the floor. For products requiring an emergency release, mount the emergency release 6 feet above the floor.
Do not connect opener to source of power until instructed to do so.
6. Locate control button: (a) within sight of door, (b) at a minimum height of 5 feet so small children cannot reach it, and (c) away from all moving parts of the door.
Install Entrapment Warning Label next to the control button in a prominent location. Install the Emergency Release Marking. Attach the marking on or next to the emergency release.
After installing opener, the door must reverse when it contacts a 11/2inch high object (or a 2 by 4 board laid flat) on the floor.
(2) The User Instructions shall include the following instructions:
Important Safety Instructions
Warning—To reduce the risk of severe injury or death:
Read and follow all instructions.
Never let children operate, or play with door controls. Keep the remote control away from children.
3. Always keep the moving door in sight and away from people and objects until it is completely closed. No one should cross the path of the moving door.
NEVER GO UNDER A STOPPED PARTIALLY OPEN DOOR.
Test door opener monthly. The garage door MUST reverse on contact with a 11/2inch object (or a 2 by 4 board laid flat) on the floor. After adjusting either the force or the limit of travel, retest the door opener. Failure to adjust the opener properly may cause severe injury or death.
For products requiring an emergency release, if possible, use the emergency release only when the door is closed. Use caution when using this release with the door open. Weak or broken springs may allow the door to fall rapidly, causing injury or death.
Keep garage door properly balanced. See owner’s manual. An improperly balanced door could cause severe injury or death. Have a qualified service person make repairs to cables, spring assemblies and other hardware.
Save these Instructions.