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View Poll Results: How should you report the stem wall shown in the picture?
Requires monitoring 1 1.30%
Requires evaluation by a Structural Engineer 61 79.22%
In need of immediate repairs 13 16.88%
Walls in this shape are typical of older properties 2 2.60%
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Old 1/19/06, 9:37 AM
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Because the inspector is a novice, the client has money to burn, the realtor is relying on the inspectors ability.....? This is a very expensive fix, it is beyond butressing.

Raymond Wand
Alton, ON
Exactly,

And if an inspector cannot determine this, he/she should buy a chimpanzee
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Old 1/19/06, 11:50 AM
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Hi to all,

The correct answer is:

Evaluation by a Structural Engineer

OK, now the fun begins


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I can't understand why so many are calling for an engineer when the overwhelming evidence suggests it has failed. It is well beyond the tolerances acceptable.

Are we as inspectors so frieghtened to call things out that are obviously failed? What manner are you serving your client with a situation like this. I think the last thing a client would want to hear from an experienced inspector would be the wall is failed and should be rebuilt.

Of course I am sure others will disagree.

Raymond Wand
Alton, ON
I am not disputing that the foundation has completely and demonstrably failed, however the required repairs to this system would require to be Engineered rather than just "Fixed" it is for this reason that I would call for an SE rather than a contractor.

The Existing system has failed and without knowing why (ground hydraulic problems, footing washout, under sized foundations etc) it would require further analysis to determine the correct methods of repair.

Let Battle begin

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Default Re: QOD for 1/18/2006 structural

Surely a qualified person would assess the cause and address it when replacement is carried out? But then again we all know about common sense these days.

Fwiw.

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Surely a qualified person would assess the cause and address it when replacement is carried out? But then again we all know about common sense these days.

Fwiw.

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Raymond Wand
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Ray, it is not really a home inspector issue persee, more a customer protection issue, we have all seen "repairs" carried out to a poor standard by General Contractors, if I recommend an SE I know that the repair has to be engineered rather than fudged.

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Default Re: QOD for 1/18/2006 structural

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Hi to all,

The correct answer is:

Evaluation by a Structural Engineer

OK, now the fun begins




I am not disputing that the foundation has completely and demonstrably failed, however the required repairs to this system would require to be Engineered rather than just "Fixed" it is for this reason that I would call for an SE rather than a contractor.

The Existing system has failed and without knowing why (ground hydraulic problems, footing washout, under sized foundations etc) it would require further analysis to determine the correct methods of repair.

Let Battle begin

Regards

Gerry
Gerry, NO disrespect intended, you honestly think any & every SE has the right answers for these types of problems? audio/video http://www.wcpo.com/wcpo/localshows/...n/4bc6a0f.html

imo, when this SE states he is Not concerned about further cracks continuing to occur in 'all' walls is ridiculous. to then recommend Only an Interior perimeter system to 'control' the water is crap too! hey, i`m sure this SE is a super guy and means well, and maybe with cameras on was under some pressure but to make those statements of Not being concerned is bs, i`m sorry man. please watch VID, listen, see where injections have already been done to cracks, still leaking, more cracks in all walls. And sure looks like 1 wall, along floor, an inside method was already done and it is still leaking.

Due to the Fact there are quite a few sorry and incompetent Waterproofing/foundation contractors, i`ll give you the better choice more often may be an SE,Not always and, what if the SE provides wrong solution,then what? I am asking. It isnt protecting the consumer either. How do ya 'know' the repair will be engineered--correctly defined by any/every SE? Sure looks to other waterproofing/foundations contractors here in MI and myself, the SE in Vid is Wrong to be 'not concerned'.

Gerry/other HI`s, question for ya`s?
Do any of you think it is possible that there are foundation/basement waterproofing contractors who are...MORE knowledgeable than SE`s on these matters? let me know,THX.

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I agree with you Raymond.
Seems like everyone is worried about litigation so we try to put it off on someone else. If its wrong its wrong and point it out .
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