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View Poll Results: What portion of a beam or joist SHOULD NOT be notched?
a.) Upper 1/3 Portion 10 25.00%
b.) Middle 1/3 Portion 22 55.00%
c.) The Lower 1/6th Portion 8 20.00%
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Old 12/26/06, 11:22 AM
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Default QOD- 12/26/2006 - Framing ( IRC-2003)

This is a simple QOD- Please read it carefully before answering it...we are not looking for ALL the varibles...just the answer to the actual question.



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Upper? Is that the top of the beam?
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Old 12/26/06, 8:32 PM
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lol....man......



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upper, lower? Can this joist be confused for a stud? Paul, I'm glad you're an electrician, I'd hate to see the houses you build.

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lol...nope the term joist is fine..........it is written this way.....you have only a limited space for the question..has to be brief and to the point...Plus these terms are written in the IRC text that covers this question as well....don't blame the messenger...



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upper, lower? Can this joist be confused for a stud? Paul, I'm glad you're an electrician, I'd hate to see the houses you build.

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FYI....nope......a JOIST is not a stud.....could not support the weight that a ceiling " JOIST" or BEAM would allow....thehehe.....confused yourself didn't you...put that coffee away Thomas.



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Actually, my floor framing and beams usually look pretty good up until the Electrians and Plumblers show up. ha ha. That is when I have to pay attention to holes and notches.

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Actually, my floor framing and beams usually look pretty good up until the Electrians and Plumblers show up. ha ha. That is when I have to pay attention to holes and notches.

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Woooooooo! I drill tiny 3/8" to 1" holes. The real evil people are the HVAC guys. I've seen them cut 3-4 sections of top plates before they found the right way they wanted to run their ducts. Damn top plate butchers!

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Actually, my floor framing and beams usually look pretty good up until the Electrians and Plumblers show up. ha ha. That is when I have to pay attention to holes and notches.

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Hey....MY holes are allowed..........we are talking about NOTCHING...think about it...if I NOTCHED the middle 1/3rd......the freakin THING would fall...oh wait...I just gave away the answer.....shucks...oh well!



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Hey....MY holes are allowed..........we are talking about NOTCHING...think about it...if I NOTCHED the middle 1/3rd......the freakin THING would fall...oh wait...I just gave away the answer.....shucks...oh well!
Thanks for helping Paul. ha. ha.

Yea, I know, there are still a few that care, right? ha. ha.

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