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Hardware, Software & Publications What hardware, software, books, videos, et cetera have you found useful? What would you like to see more of? This topic is to discuss various inspection-related products and publications.

View Poll Results: What hardware do you use to collect data during your inspection?
I use pencil and paper and create the report with a computer back at the office 65 35.52%
I use a voice recorder and create the report with a computer back at the office 23 12.57%
I only use a camera and create the report with a computer back at the office 48 26.23%
I use a PDA and prefer it over a tablet or laptop 16 8.74%
I use a PDA but have never tried a tablet or laptop 9 4.92%
I use a tablet or laptop and prefer it over a PDA 27 14.75%
I use a tablet or laptop but have never tried a PDA 16 8.74%
I dictate to someone over the phone who enters the data for me 1 0.55%
I write a paper report (no computer involved) 11 6.01%
I carry a typewriter on a board attached to a neck strap as I walk around 7 3.83%
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Old 9/30/09, 1:46 AM
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I agree if the picture is with the comment. I happen to prefer to have the pictures at the back of section of the report so the written comments can be scanned quickly in one place. In this scenario a reference is required and useful.



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I agree if the picture is with the comment. I happen to prefer to have the pictures at the back of section of the report so the written comments can be scanned quickly in one place. In this scenario a reference is required and useful.
Most Inspectors prefer that pictures accompany the comments for the obvious reason it is much easier to comprehend.
Home Inspector Pro does allow you to enter as many of the comments as you wish into the summery section however , which would contain all text and refer to page and section where a picture can be found along with other comments such as materials used.
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For photo input the 3D software can time stamp comments and then later back in the office show you photos that were taken (with time stamp) +- 2 minutes of when you time stamped the comment. Saves a great amount of time by only showing one or a few photos to choose from instead of all that you took and have to weed thru them.

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Most modern cameras have folders built in that can do the same thing.
Not sure how that feature would help.

Most Inspectors like to run through all the pics anyway.
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Old 10/2/09, 5:13 PM
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I take the picture in the order of my HI which is almost always in the same sequence, then it is easy to find the pics as I enter the data for the report. I annotate most of the pics with an arrow, circle, and HERE. The software does all that and HERE is my annotation by default.

Most of the narratives for defects or items of interest have already been written in the 6 yrs of HI report writing. click click click

I might save a little time if I could have a couple of more comments for pic annotation in a drop down menu. Not much time though.

Anymore I do the inspection, while taking pictures, then do the entire report on site at the end.



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Old 10/2/09, 10:33 PM
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I have a ton of canned comments too. I always add more specific info to save from getting the phone call later and to make my point abundantly clear.

As for styles of reporting (where photos are placed) there are two schools of thought (probably more ): keep the photos together which allows someone to read a comment and see the photo; the other being placing the comment and add the photo at the end of the section. I personally (it really is a matter of style and what your customers are telling you that counts there are no right or wrongs here) have received much feedback from clients that my other forms of reporting took too long to read. Now I know what we all say that we want the client to read the whole report. But really, how many actually read the whole report, I don't have factual information - just anecdotal - but I am guessing that the percentage of clients that read the whole report is lower when the client cannot quickly scan a section (i.e. plumbing) to get the issues and then drill down from there....

By the way - great discussion here. I really am enjoying hearing all the different opinions and ways in which inspectors get it done. This is how I learn because there always seems to be someone here who figured out how to crack the coconut.



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I take the picture in the order of my HI which is almost always in the same sequence, then it is easy to find the pics as I enter the data for the report. I annotate most of the pics with an arrow, circle, and HERE. The software does all that and HERE is my annotation by default.

Most of the narratives for defects or items of interest have already been written in the 6 yrs of HI report writing. click click click

I might save a little time if I could have a couple of more comments for pic annotation in a drop down menu. Not much time though.

Anymore I do the inspection, while taking pictures, then do the entire report on site at the end.
I never put comments under the picture as a rule but instead add location or componant title only.
Adding a comment would be redundant since the picture comment does not show up in a summery.(plus duplication looks terrible)

Thats why I always push Active Words software as a great program for typing shortcuts.

It is almost impossible to get out of some form of narration in a high end report.

Some how left-side-cracked as a comment just does not cut it in a high end report.

You can have 6 years of comments stored and spend another 6 years scrolling through them to hunt and click (haha)

Thats why a search as you type feature would be a nice addition in many ways.

The search type would need to be section speciphic in order to produce fast relevant results however.

This way those 6 years of comments ,which may number in the thousands would actually save time over narration.
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Old 11/5/09, 2:44 PM
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Default Re: How do you enter data on site?

After this poll being here a while you should all notice that there are a lot of home inspectors spending late nights creating reports. 73% of the ones that took the poll are going back to the office to create their reports. What would be interesting is what the average length of time it takes for these inspectors to complete a report once they get back to the office.

I did notice thou that the percentages do add up to more then 100% .... so the percentages may be off some.



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