NACHI's Standards of Practice now ships free with InspectVue, and for good reason.

[Ted Allen]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Brian, you certainly may add the NACHI logo, but I would keep its lawful title the same, that being "The Arizona Standards of Practice". The title of the Standards of Practice mandated in Arizona is "The Arizona Standards of Practice" not NACHI's, not ASHI's. Nor would I renumber it. The Arizona Standards of Practice has its own unique numbering.

Todd, This from the AZ BTR site and your own post, demonstrating that the Arizona Standards of Practice is a different, separately titled document which Arizona inspectors must both reference and abide by, by law:

"The Arizona Standards of Practice are adopted from... with Arizona made modifications and amendments..."

I got that and I appoligized for my mistake.

I swear my hard copy of the AZ SOP says:

AZ ASHI SOP

I got them in 2003, and I ordered them from a link on the BTR's site, maybe they came from the local ASHI folks. I do not know.

[Nick Gromicko]

Anyway, everything NACHI does helps reduce our member's liability. NACHI is the best... and the underwriter of all the E&O insurance in our industry has actuaries that have their **** and their money on the line... say so.

It all helps:

Our Keith Swift
Our attorneys
Our pre-inspection agreement http://www.nachi.org/newagreement.htm
Our Standards of Practice http://www.nachi.org/sop.htm
Our Entrance Requirements http://www.nachi.org/membership.htm
Our Education http://www.nachi.org/inspectionexcellence.htm
Even this message board...

all help to limit our liability.

AIG (the underwriter for the home inspection industry's Error and Omissions insurance) and one of the largest corporations in the world has actuaries that say so...

http://www.nachi.org/eo.htm

AIG doesn't give discounts to ASHI or NAHI members. ASHI and NAHI members must pay upwards of $1,000.00/year, every year for the privelage of NOT joining NACHI.

AIG's actuaries give deep discounts to ONLY NACHI members... for good reason.

http://www.nachi.org/eo.htm

[Nick Gromicko]

According to Crittenden's, an insurance industry analyst, NACHI members pay about $1,600 less than other home inspectors for $500,000 in coverage.

Like I've said before, if you are not a member of NACHI... you are probably too stupid to inspect.

[Ted Allen]

No inflection

[bkelly1]

Originally Posted by gromicko

According to Crittenden's, an insurance industry analyst, NACHI members pay about $1,600 less than other home inspectors for $500,000 in coverage.

Like I've said before, if you are not a member of NACHI... you are probably too stupid to inspect.

Is that all members combined?

[Ted Allen]

It really does not matter.

[Ted Allen]

2 mill + a year in dues?? Holy crap Nick.

I am not certain on this but doesent a "non profit" have to put all of its proceeds back into the org.??

[Nick Gromicko]

Every penny. www.nachi.org/nachitax.htm and then some (we spend much more than we take in each year and have use of some market-pricey assets that we don't have to pay for). How do you think we got to be the biggest and best?

And by the way, yes any inspector out there that throws away $100 per month, every month (and http://www.nachi.org/eo.htm is just one NACHI http://www.nachi.org/benefits.htm) when they could be taking that money home to their family instead of giving it to some insurance agent... is really too stupid to inspect IMHO.

[Nick Gromicko]

Ben, Crittenden's figure is $1,600.00 savings per NACHI member per year and NACHI dues are only $289/year, so with just this one NACHI http://www.nachi.org/benefits.htm alone, NACHI members save $100/month, every month... or put another way... without just this one NACHI benefit alone, non-members throw away $100/month, per non-member, every single month, non-member after non-member, month after month (millions of dollars!)... out of stupidity. A level of stupidity that prohibits them from being competent inspectors IMHO.

[Brian E. Kelly]

Poor Inflection . Why can we as AZ NACHI not adopt the AZ SOP and print them with the NACHI LOGO?????

To me, a rather plebeian NACHI member it would seem more productive to embed NACHI in the State requirements than push As Seen On TV Vendor BS, i.e. Mold, EMF, Radon, Asbestos, Poltergeists, Etc.

[Brian E. Kelly]

Originally Posted by tallen

I got that and I appoligized for my mistake.

I swear my hard copy of the AZ SOP says:

AZ ASHI SOP

I got them in 2003, and I ordered them from a link on the BTR's site, maybe they came from the local ASHI folks. I do not know.

Todd they come from ASHI. Because they are better orginized.

[Brian E. Kelly]

Nick I realize your paradigm was formed with Dick Tracy, 1940's east coast norm. But you have now relocated to the the prairie of the Midwest, at least you could move on to Raymond Chandler, 1940,s LA, and get a little closer to current American Culture.

[Nick Gromicko]

The problem with this message board is that I can't transmit inflection. If you ever met me in person you would quickly realize that much of what I say is said with a smile on my face.

When I say that "any non-member who throws away thousands and thousands of dollars instead of joining NACHI is probably too dumb to do inspections"... I'm somewhat joking around. Behind every joke lies some truth though.

It won't matter for much longer anyway. NACHI is bit by bit becoming the sole trade association for the inspection industry. Other associations continue to suffer negative growth in both member benefits and members. Although, looking at current growth trends, NACHI will succeed at having all of N. America becoming planetNACHI on our own, within the next 8 months, we're getting outside cavalry reinforcement from the flank, just to make sure. Chris Morrell and I have been working for years, laying the groundwork to take over the entire real estate multi-list system for all of N. America. When that cavalry comes over the hill what little is left of other associations will be completely wiped out. Unfortunately at that point, I won't have non-member inspector's intelligence to crack jokes about anymore... there won't be non-members. Non-members will either have to join NACHI, move overseas, or go out of business (adapt, migrate, or perish). And that is no joke.

[Brian E. Kelly]

Nick, as usual, you are correct.

[Ted Allen]

Originally Posted by gromicko

The problem with this message board is that I can't transmit inflection. If you ever met me in person you would quickly realize that much of what I say is said with a smile on my face.

When I say that "any non-member who throws away thousands and thousands of dollars instead of joining NACHI is probably too dumb to do inspections"... I'm somewhat joking around. Behind every joke lies some truth though.

It won't matter for much longer anyway. NACHI is bit by bit becoming the sole trade association for the inspection industry. Other associations continue to suffer negative growth in both member benefits and members. Although, looking at current growth trends, NACHI will succeed at having all of N. America becoming planetNACHI on our own, within the next 8 months, we're getting outside cavalry reinforcement from the flank, just to make sure. Chris Morrell and I have been working for years, laying the groundwork to take over the entire real estate multi-list system for all of N. America. When that cavalry comes over the hill what little is left of other associations will be completely wiped out. Unfortunately at that point, I won't have non-member inspector's intelligence to crack jokes about anymore... there won't be non-members. Non-members will either have to join NACHI, move overseas, or go out of business (adapt, migrate, or perish). And that is no joke.

Fair enough I will delete my previous post.