Alberta Home Inspector Licensing/Regulation meeting in Edmonton on May 25, 2009.

[Mike Howard]

Nick.....comes a time when you have to stand up and say...NO MORE. If you want to keep calling it InterNachi...then stand up for us international guys. Come to the party.

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by wblakey

I think if you take a confrontational approach that you will be left out of the process. Licensing is going to happen in Alberta, you can take that to the bank. The question is, is INACHI going to be a part of the process or not?

If what you mean is that NACHI members, by virtue of their membership, should be exempt or otherwise "grandfathered", I disagree.

First, if the law is necessary and legitimate, it should be universally applied. If it is not, it should not be passed.

Second, "grandfathering" is a tool used by licensing proponents to sedate the senior inspectors of the opposition. By "grandfathering" the loudest objector, the legislature is mistakenly led to believe that there is universal support...when there is actually nothing but embarassed silence and betrayal.

Third, and most important....it is usually the experienced inspector who has been longest out of training that is the one taking the shortcuts and performing the actions that are most often highlighted as need for licensing laws. If anyone needs to go through all the steps of being qualified, it is the established home inspector.

Tell everyone that they will have to start from scratch and perform, themselves, all of the criteria that they suggest for a licensing law....and you will have fewer people supporting it. Guaranteed.

[Vern Mitchinson]

Time is running out guys. Get your registration into INACHI, 11910-125 Street Edmonton, Alberta, T5L 0S2 by May 15. You have the notice and the address.
I need the number attending so we can have the hotel set up the room for us. That means you have to get it in the mail today or tomarrow for it to be delivered by this friday. Your future and your business is at stake.

[Nick Gromicko]

W. Paul Blakey writes:

The question is, is INACHI going to be a part of the process or not?

See post #1.

[W Paul Blakey]

I saw the announcement.

What I meant was, is INACHI going to be excluded from the process if Alberta chooses to use the BC model of accreditation (which I believe to be highly likely.)

The BC government held meetings and advertised for input from all inspectors. I replied and put forth my opinion to them in the early stages, but because INACHI has no credibility in Canada, my suggestions were largely ignored.

That's why I went for National Certification, which meant that I could still retain my INACHI membership, but at the same time have a recognized qualification that would allow me to be licensed.

The argument as to whether licensing is a good or bad thing is moot. Once it is in place you have to abide by the rules.

[Mike Howard]

Where is CanNachi durng all of this?

[Wayne Schreiber]

That is a very good question.

What ever happened to them?

[Marcel Gratton]

Originally Posted by mhoward1

Where is CanNachi durng all of this?

Mike,

CanNachi is new and we should not blame them.

The question should be where was INACHI during all of this?

But my guess is that it got lost during the transition...

[W Paul Blakey]

What you have to realize is that INACHI is a very good educational resource for home inspectors, but as an organization that provides "credentials" it is lacking in that it does not provide any kind of verification.

Yes, it has the exam to become a member, but there is no way to prove that the person taking the exam is the person who says they passed it.

Strangely, what INACHI has developed is probably the best resource for home inspectors on the planet.

Unfortunately, it does not wish to go the next step, which is validation and verification. Fair enough, just as long as you realize that INACHI will not be of any use when it comes to provincial licensing.

[Fritz Kamprath]

Originally Posted by wblakey

I think if you take a confrontational approach that you will be left out of the process. Licensing is going to happen in Alberta, you can take that to the bank. The question is, is INACHI going to be a part of the process or not?

or can we keep INACHI going and go above and beyond what is required?

There is nothing that says we have to drop INACHI and all the benefits. How is it going to upset anyone if we go the extra mile?

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by fkamprath

or can we keep INACHI going and go above and beyond what is required?

There is nothing that says we have to drop INACHI and all the benefits. How is it going to upset anyone if we go the extra mile?

Someone will have to.

Your CAHPI folks are working hard to try to convince your government that their standards are minimal....that they represent the "entry level" inspector. Shouldn't NACHI membership be MORE than that?

[W Paul Blakey]

Originally Posted by jbushart

Someone will have to.

Your CAHPI folks are working hard to try to convince your government that their standards are minimal....that they represent the "entry level" inspector. Shouldn't NACHI membership be MORE than that?

Without some sort of movement towards becoming recognized and accredited in Canada, INACHI will always remain an educational web site (nothing wrong with that).

As I've said before, I think the best combination is National Certification + INACHI. And if we could get the various educational resources accredited, it would be awesome.

It is cheaper now to gain your National Certification than ever before. After January 1, 2010 it is going to become harder for people with non-recognized training to become Nationally Certified.

This is moment while the door is still open. Take advantage of it while you can.

[Nick Gromicko]

InterNACHI's requirements www.nachi.org/membership.htm are above and beyond whatever your local state/city/provincial government sets as a minimum for licensing.

Whatever your local jurisdiction requires, whatever it is (a proctored exam, E&O insurance, 50 ride-a-longs, 25 jumping jacks), whatever... to be an InterNACHI member, you must then voluntarily fulfill InterNACHI's requirements ON TOP of it. That is why InterNACHI inspectors are the best.

Would you hire an inspector who only did the bare minimum required (only-licensed)?

Being licensed is a lot like being up-to-code. It is so bad that if you did anything less it would be outright illegal. A licensed inspector is like the bottom rung of a ladder. It is a beginning. InterNACHI is the top of the ladder.

[W Paul Blakey]

Unfortunately the INACHI requirements are all based on the honour system, which may be an admirable stance to take, but government licensing committees tend to insist on something a bit more substantial.

And the point is, in BC you need to have a license to be a home inspector. And sad to say, INACHI is not an accredited organization in the eyes of the BC government.

Nick, if you can convince them otherwise, I would be the happiest home inspector in BC.

[Nick Gromicko]

In the states we have a known no-entrance-requirement diploma mill called ASHI. You can join online in 35 seconds with nothing more than a credit card. Anyway... ASHI's top tier, highest, full membership status uses the same exam (NHIE) that many states use to provide a minimum competency license to newbies.

• Their bottom membership category (associate) requires nothing.

• Their top, full membership category (certified member) uses the government's minimum standard exam used to license newbies, fresh out of school.

So the ground level in the states is ASHI and other diploma mills.
Government licensing is the first rung of the ladder.
InterNACHI is the top of the ladder.


Read: www.nachi.org/rigorous2006.htm

and this: http://www.nachi.org/requirementcomparison.htm