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Old 11/14/07, 2:00 PM
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The only thing I would be certain of is that if its cemment siding, from that era its likely to contacin 15-20% asbestos. But what is the point of having it tested if its not a health concern if removed properly?

Sure they have the option to test, but do they need it or its it just CYA and fear mongering taking over the real facts?
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Thanks to everyone on their thoughts and advice. As usual, NACHI inspectors offering fellow inspectors a helping hand without prejudice.

Client has not agreed to incur additional costs for testing of suspect materials, both the slate siding and tar paper siding (insulbrick), to verify if these materials contain any levels of asbestos, thus, no home inspection.

Anyone know of a database of materials containing asbestos used in the residential construction industry? As building materials come and go, it would be beneficial if a database was constructed or available for reference.



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I guess some call it slate.

We just bought a home built in 1900 that has Slate Siding on it and need to know how to repair ir or find a suitable replacement to match.
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Old 11/14/07, 3:16 PM
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Products containng asbestos

http://www.asbestosnetwork.com/exposure/ex_consumer.htm

http://www.mesotheliomacenter.org/ab...s-products.php
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Old 11/14/07, 9:18 PM
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..........and let's not forget that good old 'Insulbrick' siding, which was very popular in the 40's, 50's and 60's also contained a significant amount of asbestos as well as hundreds of other nasty things. I understand it's still the veneer of choice in Alton Ontario.

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This is the first time I've heard about asbestos in that product. can you elaborate or do you have a reference source?
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Old 11/14/07, 9:36 PM
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I guess some call it slate.

We just bought a home built in 1900 that has Slate Siding on it and need to know how to repair ir or find a suitable replacement to match. I have pictures of the damage to the house after a new roof was put on (if anyone wants to see). We've been told that you can score the pieces below the lap or remove the nails underneath the lap with a hack saw so as not to break anymore pieces. Can anyone tell me how to do this, or where to find an appropriate replacement?




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Marcel: Talk to a retrofit blown insulation company. They'll show you how to easily remove the asbestos shingleswithout breaking them......we had to do it all the time. The little side insulation job I just dropped my equipment off at today (for the weekend) has these shingles.

We use a good nipper pliars, grind/thin down the face edge and then file a small hole in the face edge. This allows you to grab behind the small nail head and pull the shingle nail out. If you need to use the face of the pliars as a fulcrum to gain leverage on the shingle head, use a small Richard scraper bar to distribute the force or you'll break the shingle edge or corner.

As I said, see a good insulator and they'll show you how. And they may have a few shingles stored away......they always need a few spares to replace the ones they broke........... they don't make'em anymore. We used to talk with siders who were stripping them to install vinyl and usually got them for 0.
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I couldn't find anything about Insulbrick containing asbestos either fwiw.
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I have heard of insulbrick being a "potential" fire hazard



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I have heard of insulbrick being a "potential" fire hazard
Isn't any wood based product a potential fire hazard unless treated with fire retardents............wood roof shakes, trusses, rafters, studs, wood I joists, Masonite, wood clapboard, etc........ And especially those containing oil based products....foam insulating boards, tarpaper, asphalt based shingles, kraft paper backed insulation, foam pads and plastic carpets, vinyl flooring, foam cushions, your shoe soles...it could go on and on!!!

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... not to mention; spontaneous human combustion ....
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Old 11/15/07, 9:14 AM
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... not to mention; spontaneous human combustion ....
Gee cute have not heard of that for a while .... Cookie



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Marcel: Talk to a retrofit blown insulation company. They'll show you how to easily remove the asbestos shingleswithout breaking them......we had to do it all the time. The little side insulation job I just dropped my equipment off at today (for the weekend) has these shingles.

We use a good nipper pliars, grind/thin down the face edge and then file a small hole in the face edge. This allows you to grab behind the small nail head and pull the shingle nail out. If you need to use the face of the pliars as a fulcrum to gain leverage on the shingle head, use a small Richard scraper bar to distribute the force or you'll break the shingle edge or corner.

As I said, see a good insulator and they'll show you how. And they may have a few shingles stored away......they always need a few spares to replace the ones they broke........... they don't make'em anymore. We used to talk with siders who were stripping them to install vinyl and usually got them for 0.
Sorry Brian; I can see how this could have been conceived as being a question from me and it was not, it was a picture of someone's quote in a forum.

I used to install some of these asbestos siding shingles with my Father when I was a kid. And they were removed and replaced often. A hardware store across from my house always stocked up on as much as he could and also provide the cutter and punch tool with it for free. No rental fee if you bought the product from him.

Since we did not have the tools to create dust, the stuff was harmless.

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