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Old 5/6/08, 12:16 PM
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The members of the ESOP and Nick had better take a long hard look at kicking out Roy Cooke and what effect that will have on the membership in Canada. Let's not be stupid here gentlemen. The effect of removing Roy Cooke will have long lasting and unfortunate repercussions.

Think before you act. Once this step is taken is will be all downhill for I.N.A.C.H.I. here in Canada.
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Old 5/6/08, 12:31 PM
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Anonymous threats do very little to affect the decisions of those making them, but thanks for you input.



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Old 5/6/08, 12:37 PM
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James,
Is there anyway we can have this thread cut off now before it blows out of proportion as others have?
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Old 5/6/08, 12:45 PM
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Four Canadian InterNACHI members participated in ESOP discussions. I believe they weighed the pros and cons of their decision and a larger problem, with allowing the situation Mr. Cook created to go unchecked. I believe this amounts to a tempest in a tea kettle with regard to Canadian membership. Most simply see it for what it's worth or do not care; nor should they.

One person does not define this association, except as it pertains to Nick.
Not me, not Roy, nobody.

As to Roy's expulsion, I should remind everyone that was not ESOP's decision, at this point, to release Roy.

It was Roy's decision. He was found to be in violation of the COE, and was merely instructed to cease posting for a period of 14 days.

If he failed to comply, he would be expelled.
He failed to comply.
Even when reminded, he became defiant.
Nothing new.
As predictable as cream cheese, IMO.

Too say that ESOP is moving against Roy is absurd.
Roy has moved more swiftly against himself then any person or commttee could have.

Roy has no one to blame but Roy.

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Old 5/6/08, 12:46 PM
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I hope you guys realize who Jr. is.
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Old 5/6/08, 12:47 PM
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The members of the ESOP and Nick had better take a long hard look at kicking out Roy Cooke and what effect that will have on the membership in Canada. Let's not be stupid here gentlemen. The effect of removing Roy Cooke will have long lasting and unfortunate repercussions.

Think before you act. Once this step is taken is will be all downhill for I.N.A.C.H.I. here in Canada.
This was Roy's plan from the get go.
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Old 5/6/08, 12:54 PM
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This was Roy's plan from the get go.
Wrong Ken I just saw the post.
I have no plan other then doing as I always have and that is give help and information where and when I can.
Sorry to disapoint you.



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Old 5/6/08, 1:11 PM
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The members of the ESOP and Nick had better take a long hard look at kicking out Roy Cooke and what effect that will have on the membership in Canada.
You / Raymond Wand and Roy lost ALL support long long ago! ! You and Roy have proven to be an embarrassment for all of us in Canada!
Let's not be stupid here gentlemen.
The STUPIDITY is all on your and Roy's shoulders! BOTH of you have been total and complete jackasses!
  • On April 30, 2008 Roy Cooke QUIT NACHI!
According to what we have read the ESOP committee went to extraordinary lengths and he was given PREFERANTIAL TREATMENT by having four members of the ESOP committee recuse themselves and not participate in any voting in this matter.


Then to top it off the ESOP committee brought in two Canadians and a highly respected NACHI member to decide if Roy Cooke at was in violation of the NACHI code of ethics.


It seems that they found that Roy Cooke was in violation and a short suspension by a "Special" ESOP Committee followed.

From what we have read today Roy Cooke ignored this suspension and has openly challenged the ESOP committee to remove him!

The effect of removing Roy Cooke will have long lasting and unfortunate repercussions.

Think before you act. Once this step is taken is will be all downhill for I.N.A.C.H.I. here in Canada.
The majority of us Canadians are sick and tired of you and Roy Cooke!
  • It is WAY PAST time for Roy to go!
In Today's comments Joe Farsetta who is th eCharirman of the ESOP asked Roy to STOP his tirade!

Instead od "STOPPING" ..Roy Cooke is LAUGHING at Joe Farsetta and said "Joe now you are pleading with me"...


Well guess what Ray & Roy! It just shows that Mr. Farsetta is the better man and that BOTH of you are A-Holes!
Hey Ray!
Imagine a bucket filled 3/4 with water.

Now imagine Roy with his hand in the bucket.

Now imagine Roy pulling his hand out of the bucket of water.......

THINK about how big a hole he will leave in the water!

THAT is how much Roy Cooke will be missed!
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Old 5/6/08, 1:30 PM
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Roy,

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I have no plan other then doing as I always have and that is give help and information where and when I can.
You have been far from helpful, IMO
Where and when you can?
Time will tell.
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Old 5/6/08, 1:39 PM
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Roy,



You have been far from helpful, IMO
Where and when you can?
Time will tell.
Thanks for your Confidence Joe.
Life is so short why not try and see if you can make a positive post and help some one.



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Old 5/6/08, 1:50 PM
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Roy, if you took it upon yourself to make only positive posts and stopped wearing your emotions on your sleeve none of actions against you would have happened.

I'm sorry this has happened to you but you have given the decision makers no choice.

I hope one day you will understand.

This whole affair is reminiscent of the line in Casey at the Bat,

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Old 5/6/08, 3:27 PM
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Originally Posted by jfarsetta
Four Canadian InterNACHI members participated in ESOP discussions. I believe they weighed the pros and cons of their decision and a larger problem, with allowing the situation Mr. Cook created to go unchecked. I believe this amounts to a tempest in a tea kettle with regard to Canadian membership. Most simply see it for what it's worth or do not care; nor should they.

One person does not define this association, except as it pertains to Nick.
Not me, not Roy, nobody.

As to Roy's expulsion, I should remind everyone that was not ESOP's decision, at this point, to release Roy.

It was Roy's decision. He was found to be in violation of the COE, and was merely instructed to cease posting for a period of 14 days.



If he failed to comply, he would be expelled.
He failed to comply.
Even when reminded, he became defiant.
Nothing new.
As predictable as cream cheese, IMO.

Too say that ESOP is moving against Roy is absurd.
Roy has moved more swiftly against himself then any person or commttee could have.

Roy has no one to blame but Roy.
Was there a thread somewhere on the MB regarding this? If so, I must have missed it.



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Old 5/6/08, 3:41 PM
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The ESOP has endured many poor remarks from members and non members abroad over recent decisions that had to be made. Know one that I have spoken too is happy or pleased with the outcome of any recent decision.

There is no doubt that more poor and hateful remarks are on the way. The ESOP is prepared to receive them all and will be more than willing to address any hard feeling.

All I can hope for is that any MEMBER who wants to say something will show respect by taking it to the Ethics section in the members only area.

The open forum is no place for you to express poor internal feelings.



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Old 5/6/08, 4:01 PM
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Great idea Frank, but we both know who is not going to allow that to happen.
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Old 5/6/08, 4:20 PM
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The ESOP has endured many poor remarks from members and non members abroad over recent decisions that had to be made. Know one that I have spoken too is happy or pleased with the outcome of any recent decision.

There is no doubt that more poor and hateful remarks are on the way. The ESOP is prepared to receive them all and will be more than willing to address any hard feeling.

All I can hope for is that any MEMBER who wants to say something will show respect by taking it to the Ethics section in the members only area.

The open forum is no place for you to express poor internal feelings.
I agree also, if membership discussion is to take place it should be done in the appropriate section of the MB. enough has been said in the open sections. should a non member post hateful remarks, I would hope that members will refrain from responding.



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