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Old 10/21/09, 8:40 PM
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IT MAY NOT BE TOO LATE;


Hello Ontario ,

This new RST/GST tax is not getting any coverage in the newspaper/television and I am not sure why. It is going to be the biggest tax increase in history. It's like no one wants to inform us of the facts. I have been investigating and I would like to share my findings.

The new tax will be administered by the Federal Government. It will be based on the GST, that means if the tax is currently collected on the Goods and Service Tax at 5% it is going to be increased to 13%, that sounds fine as Ontario 's Provincial Retail Sales Tax is 8%. Add the two together and things seem fine.

One problem, Retail Sales Tax is not collected on everything that Goods and Services Tax is, the key word here is "Services". Retail Sales Tax is not collected on services. What is going to increase?

Here is a small list of services currently only taxed at 5% going up to 13%.

Natural Gas bill
Internet bill
Water bill
Gas at the pumps- That is like 7 cents per L., or, in English, 31 cents a gallon (that is a tax on top of a tax)
Hair cut
Massage therapy & Condo Maintenance Fees !
HOME INSPECTIONS

Anything that requires labour around your house- plumber, electrician, painting, grass cutting ext.

Electricity bill- This is a good one. Look at your electricity bill there is a charge on it for debt retirement charge. That is a charge for the huge debt the OPC ran up. Only in Ontario would we pay tax on a debt, and only in Ontario would we increase this tax.

This is just a small list as there is so much much more.

Let's talk about small business for a minute.

Mr. Mcguinty tells us in the budget that this new tax is going to save mall businesses 500 million dollars. I do not know how much it costs to fill out a six line tax return monthly, but all small business owners I know do their own. If you are in business you will know about compensation on your Retail Sales Tax return. This is when you get to keep 5% of the tax collected up to $1,500.00 per year to help with your administration costs. That is gone once this tax is combined. Really it only helps large corporations with multiple vendor permit numbers, not small businesses.

Good news, I thought. There were two places where we were going to see an advantage to this tax. First there is no GST on used cars if bought privately and provincial tax on alcohol in between 10% to 12%. That is 2% to 4% higher than our normal Retail Sales Tax. Good old Mcguinty took care of that real quick. He is now saying to make it fair between used car lots, that he will collect the Retail Sales Tax on used cars still. Get ready for this one, he is going to add a levy on alcohol to promote social responsibility. This man is using the words social responsibility at the same time as he is raising our taxes, what he promised not to do.

Sending this could save you a lot of money over your lifetime. Please forward it to everyone in your contact list.

Stand up Ontario and tell him we cannot afford any more Mcguinty politics. No new taxes.


GO TO;


www.unfairtaxgrab.com.

AND SIGN THE PETITION.
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Old 10/22/09, 12:27 AM
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Thanks for posting that. George. This is the worst tax grab I have seen in my long life and it's being defended by large untruths.

I would like to join the petition, but it is sponsored by the Ontario NDP and I think it is foolish to provide any political party with your personal coordinates.

Is the petition available in a non-patisan place?

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Old 10/26/09, 1:43 AM
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Carefull....... the NDP might want anyone of us to run the party lol!!!! shhhhhhh don't give them my name George!!!!



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Old 10/26/09, 5:12 AM
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California has een trying to do the same thing and start taxing services as well. We'll see if it passes.



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Old 10/26/09, 10:02 AM
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I agree with you Bill ( 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, there that should give you enough time to recover from shock ) but I cannot find a petition anywhere else. I guess, weighing one evil against the other, the NDP is the lesser of the two and I can always add them to my 'spam list'.

This is a huge tax grab and I cannot understand why Ontarians are just allowing Queen's Park to screw them like this without even bleating !
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Old 10/27/09, 1:23 AM
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IT MAY NOT BE TOO LATE;


Hello Ontario ,

This new RST/GST tax is not getting any coverage in the newspaper/television and I am not sure why. It is going to be the biggest tax increase in history. It's like no one wants to inform us of the facts. I have been investigating and I would like to share my findings.

The new tax will be administered by the Federal Government. It will be based on the GST, that means if the tax is currently collected on the Goods and Service Tax at 5% it is going to be increased to 13%, that sounds fine as Ontario 's Provincial Retail Sales Tax is 8%. Add the two together and things seem fine.

One problem, Retail Sales Tax is not collected on everything that Goods and Services Tax is, the key word here is "Services". Retail Sales Tax is not collected on services. What is going to increase?

Here is a small list of services currently only taxed at 5% going up to 13%.

Natural Gas bill
Internet bill
Water bill
Gas at the pumps- That is like 7 cents per L., or, in English, 31 cents a gallon (that is a tax on top of a tax)
Hair cut
Massage therapy & Condo Maintenance Fees !
HOME INSPECTIONS

Anything that requires labour around your house- plumber, electrician, painting, grass cutting ext.

Electricity bill- This is a good one. Look at your electricity bill there is a charge on it for debt retirement charge. That is a charge for the huge debt the OPC ran up. Only in Ontario would we pay tax on a debt, and only in Ontario would we increase this tax.

This is just a small list as there is so much much more.

Let's talk about small business for a minute.

Mr. Mcguinty tells us in the budget that this new tax is going to save mall businesses 500 million dollars. I do not know how much it costs to fill out a six line tax return monthly, but all small business owners I know do their own. If you are in business you will know about compensation on your Retail Sales Tax return. This is when you get to keep 5% of the tax collected up to $1,500.00 per year to help with your administration costs. That is gone once this tax is combined. Really it only helps large corporations with multiple vendor permit numbers, not small businesses.

Good news, I thought. There were two places where we were going to see an advantage to this tax. First there is no GST on used cars if bought privately and provincial tax on alcohol in between 10% to 12%. That is 2% to 4% higher than our normal Retail Sales Tax. Good old Mcguinty took care of that real quick. He is now saying to make it fair between used car lots, that he will collect the Retail Sales Tax on used cars still. Get ready for this one, he is going to add a levy on alcohol to promote social responsibility. This man is using the words social responsibility at the same time as he is raising our taxes, what he promised not to do.

Sending this could save you a lot of money over your lifetime. Please forward it to everyone in your contact list.

Stand up Ontario and tell him we cannot afford any more Mcguinty politics. No new taxes.


GO TO;


www.unfairtaxgrab.com.

AND SIGN THE PETITION.
George:
B.C. is on the same path.
Tax grabs galore. We are the largest porpotion tax payers into government coffers
and we get nothing for it in return.
The new H.S.T. will harm our industry, will drive some of our business underground,
we may have fewer inspections because the purchaser may not use our services, etc.
This stinks of another tax grab without representation etc.

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Old 10/27/09, 7:32 AM
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I signed!!!!



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