For Bill Mullen

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Hold on, we're going to change the acronym again. We'll get back to you.

Might I suggest, for this week's 'must-join-or-be-excluded-from-the-business' Canadian association, the Professional House Observers Networking for Industry Exclusive Standards (PHONIES).

[Wand Raymond]

Personally I like FUBAR.

[Claude Lawrenson]

FOR CLARIFICATION Published On Sat Sep 15 2007
This article was in the Toronto Star newspaper By Steve Maxwell

Home inspectors' qualifications vary - Look for RHI designation to ensure you're not getting uncertified "cowboy".

Hiring a home inspector is a lot like buying organic food. You need to look behind the label to see exactly what you're getting. Not every "organic" apple comes from the Garden of Eden, and not all "certified" home inspectors are the kind of people you should trust when laying out hundreds of thousands of dollars on a home purchase.

As it turns out, Canada produces some of the best home inspectors in the world. The trouble is not everyone in the business measures up, even if they might seem to. That's why you need to be careful in very specific ways as you select a home inspector. The best are trained to help you choose a resale home wisely, but that's not all. Careful homebuyers also have new homes professionally inspected before they sign off on their purchase. The construction errors you'll occasionally find in brand new houses are astonishing.

The most common home inspection designation you can trust is RHI. The letters stand for Registered Home Inspector, and it's a distinction that not just anyone can claim. Only inspectors who've fulfilled specific requirements can legally call themselves an RHI. These include completion of a series of baseline courses, technical background in the building field and successful completion of hundreds of actual home inspections and reports that have been examined and verified by an independent committee of experts. The Canadian Association of Home and Property Inspectors (CAHPI 888-748-2244) acts as a clearinghouse of information for locating RHIs. You can find registered inspectors working in areas across Canada by visiting cahpi.ca.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Claude
Having been a member of three Canadian Association and two American Associations . ,
I see great home Inspectors on Both sides of the Border .
I also Know the American association's do far more for all Home Inspectors then the Canadian Associations by far.
Their is no comparison on Communication and information you are proof of this you Keep coming to NACHI to push your agenda.
This is unfortunate we as Home Inspectors do not seem to get any cooperation from Canadian associations .
Have just read some of your Canadian Recent CAHPI/OAHI posts and seen your complaints about our Canadian Associations you have convinced me that I am correct . NACHI has 62 on line at this time trading information , and over 324 visited NACHI today
Canada has zero on line in Canada and not one trading information today .
Claude can you see the truth No one Canadian association Cares in the least All the Directors of these Canadian associations care about is selling classes and products . You are a prime example .

[ROBERT V. YOUNG]

Originally Posted by rcooke

Claude
Having been a member of three Canadian Association and two American Associations . ,
I see great home Inspectors on Both sides of the Border .
I also Know the American association's do far more for all Home Inspectors then the Canadian Associations by far.
Their is no comparison on Communication and information you are proof of this you Keep coming to NACHI to push your agenda.
This is unfortunate we as Home Inspectors do not seem to get any cooperation from Canadian associations .
Have just read some of your Canadian Recent CAHPI/OAHI posts and seen your complaints about our Canadian Associations you have convinced me that I am correct . NACHI has 62 on line at this time trading information , and over 324 visited NACHI today
Canada has zero on line in Canada and not one trading information today .
Claude can you see the truth No one association Cares in the least All the Directors of the se associations care about is selling classes and products . You are a prime example .

Mr. Cooke.
Certifying myself in the industry some 15 months ago and investing my efforts more at looking at Canadian association than studying ( still question that move ) I tend to agree with you.
To much ( save me from my competitor ) it seems.
No accumulation of thought among the associations.
That minimum standard. Hate that term.
That pro-quo qualifications for become an CHI. Certified Home Inspector.
One particular association lobbing the government and trying to pushing other associations away from attending meetings addressing the validity of regulation and licensing.. Gees Louse.
Now they all do it seeing it is the only way to be heard.
WOW.
Is this a joke?
Only we can play and the rest have to pay. HA HA to bad. We got here first.
WOW.!!!!!
Yes Claude is right about the RHI designation in 2007.
Now another chapter has been written in Alberta and still some try to dismiss it validity of CMI and stating RHI is the only TRUE designation..
Claude minds have to change to accept all.
It an industry not a monopoly although some want it that way for greed and power.
Just my view.

[Nick Gromicko]

CAHPI has an association and history with a known U.S.-based diploma mill (ASHI). Before you start accusing me of slander... I can prove this relationship to diploma mill ASHI.

[Wand Raymond]

Ah yes Steve Maxwell... I remember that article well as I took him to task about his baseless facts. Seems he published info which was sent to him without delving deeper into the bull about RHI.

As for

and reports that have been examined and verified by an independent committee of experts

it turns out OAHI so called experts are not the experts alluded to in the article. One report reviewer in OAHI was know for reviewing reports above and beyond the SOP based on his arrogant assumption that he knew best.

I know first hand how the Admission Review Committee functions in OAHI, its called discrimination and its run by a bunch of zealots who answer to know one, any appeal by members questioning decision of the AR committee are treated with contempt and retribution.

Further anyone in OAHI whose name appears in the Registry is entitled to use RHI regardless what their qualifications are or how they are reviewed.

I used RHI after I left OAHI and was never ever challenged for using it, and OAHI will not enforce their right as per PR 158 because they can afford to take anyone to court as they have no money to do so.

Steve Maxwell should stick to writing about how to build sheds, fixing leaking faucets, and toilets.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by rcooke

Claude
Having been a member of three Canadian Association and two American Associations . ,
I see great home Inspectors on Both sides of the Border .
I also Know the American association's do far more for all Home Inspectors then the Canadian Associations by far.
Their is no comparison on Communication and information you are proof of this you Keep coming to NACHI to push your agenda.
This is unfortunate we as Home Inspectors do not seem to get any cooperation from Canadian associations .
Have just read some of your Canadian Recent CAHPI/OAHI posts and seen your complaints about our Canadian Associations you have convinced me that I am correct . NACHI has 62 on line at this time trading information , and over 324 visited NACHI today
Canada has zero on line in Canada and not one trading information today .
Claude can you see the truth No one Canadian association Cares in the least All the Directors of these Canadian associations care about is selling classes and products . You are a prime example .

http://www.phpic.ca/bod.php

No Bill Mullen, No Claude Lawrenson,No Wayne Fulton, no Mike O"Grady,
Where have all the directors gone .

I was told Paul Wilson has a law suit against them ... Interesting ... Roy


Remember Whistler
http://www.nachi.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4935
Bill has a big anouncement comming soon
http://www.nachi.org/forum/showpost.php?p=166560&postcount=103

[Claude Lawrenson]

Good question Roy.

Truth of the matter - I never was a Director of PHPIC, nor was Bill as a matter of fact. As another point - it is also my understanding PHPIC has "elected" a new president. My guess, that weblink you provided will likely be updated soon to reflect the latest changes.

Regards, Claude

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by clawrenson

Good question Roy.

Truth of the matter - I never was a Director of PHPIC, nor was Bill as a matter of fact. As another point - it is also my understanding PHPIC has "elected" a new president. My guess, that weblink you provided will likely be updated soon to reflect the latest changes.

Regards, Claude

Thanks Claude guess I was misinformed I thought you where on the Discipline committee and every time I went to the PHPIC web site I thought I saw your and Bills name constantly and now see neither ??????? and a lot of other names are also missing .

[Claude Lawrenson]

When PHPIO (a provincial association) morphed into PHPIC (a national association), a number of Directors remained members but relinquished the position as Directors. Yes, I did serve as the interim chair of the PHPIO Discipline Committee, for a brief period, until other "elected" members filled vacancies. I simply relinquished that post on the startup of the NHICC.

On another note - that alleged lawsuit is news to me! I would have to state that's "unfortunate" misinformation, so I will clarify once again! It's simply not true!

Regards, Claude

[ROBERT V. YOUNG]

Your the King mate!!
The King!!