Bill Mullen will be our Keynote speaker at our upcoming Convention in Toronto.

[Nick Gromicko]

Let me explain one more thing about Bill:

He's stuck like I am.

Anyone who knows me personally, knows I am a people person and knows that NAZI and scumbag are not words in Nick Gromicko's (the person's) vocabulary. But unfortunately I somehow ended up Founder of the world's largest inspection association and with it I have some duty to fight battles that normally I wouldn't put my nose into. Some of these fights require that I do and say things that I never would normally. Nick Gromicko is not a political activist for the home inspection industry, but the Founder of NACHI is.

[Mario A. Kyriacou, CHI]

Originally Posted by dwillis

NACHI's Convention in Toronto is already the largest inspection event in history. There is so much to do. If you don't want to listen to Bill, then don't.

Deanna

How are you?

Will you be attending our convention?

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[George A. H. Luck]

Nick, you are right; C.A.P.H.I. is a small group but they have the ear of government. Because of this they exert an inordinately large influence on that same government. Couple that with the oft publicly stated hatred for this organization and you personally and you can see why we Canadian members are fearful of what you have wrought.

We are not expecting C.A.P.H.I. to perform in any way that is not mandated by the branch of government (C.M.H.C.) that charged them with the task of developing the national certification programme. Included in that charge was the requirement to involve 'all' Canadian Home Inspectors and 'all' Canadian Home Inspection organizations and sadly, access to milliions of tax payers dollars to fund this folly. All that we are asking is that C,A,P,H,I, live up to their charge.

That's not asking too much.

I have no personal axe to grind with Mr. Mullen. I do. however. bridle at the things he has said about this organization and you. You say not to look back on the past but to look forward to the future. May I remind you of that popular saying "Those who remain ignorant of the past are doomed to relive it."

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by gluck

May I remind you of that popular saying "Those who remain ignorant of the past are doomed to relive it."

This is really confusing the stuffing out of me.

There is this particular group that you guys think has the "ear" of your government. You oppose this group and its leader.

Now, many of you are also in favor of having your government (who is listening to this group) control your profession through a licensing measure.

Now, a desire to be controlled by the state is foreign to me, I admit, but as illogical as it is....it seems even more illogical that you would NOT want to hear from the spokesman who is most likely to be influencing the regulation that so many of you are so desperate to have.

I would think that you would be jumping up and down in anticipation to have the opportunity to hear - first hand - what the group that has the "ear" of your government is planning for your future.

Keeping yourselves in the dark and STILL fighting to be controlled is absolutely absurd.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by jbushart

This is really confusing the stuffing out of me.

There is this particular group that you guys think has the "ear" of your government. You oppose this group and its leader.

Now, many of you are also in favor of having your government (who is listening to this group) control your profession through a licensing measure.

Now, a desire to be controlled by the state is foreign to me, I admit, but as illogical as it is....it seems even more illogical that you would NOT want to hear from the spokesman who is most likely to be influencing the regulation that so many of you are so desperate to have.

I would think that you would be jumping up and down in anticipation to have the opportunity to hear - first hand - what the group that has the "ear" of your government is planning for your future.

Keeping yourselves in the dark and STILL fighting to be controlled is absolutely absurd.

Sorry I do not agree Having to wait another 5 months for information that should have been given earlier this year to me is not satisfactory .
This just Gives CAHPI more time to continue on lobing the government and the politicians .
Some might think this is a good deal but it is not different to what has gone on in the past .
Do I expect Bill to there well he is running at 50% we had a meeting 1.5 years ago another promised and he backed out.
CAHPI had their Conference last month when this information was to be given out .
I have no idea how much if any has been released.

Cookie

[lewens]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Let me explain one more thing about Bill:

He's stuck like I am.

Anyone who knows me personally, knows I am a people person and knows that NAZI and scumbag are not words in Nick Gromicko's (the person's) vocabulary. But unfortunately I somehow ended up Founder of the world's largest inspection association and with it I have some duty to fight battles that normally I wouldn't put my nose into. Some of these fights require that I do and say things that I never would normally. Nick Gromicko is not a political activist for the home inspection industry, but the Founder of NACHI is.

Well said Nick
The very fact that you have founded the world's largest home inspection association speaks volumns. Ray and Roy just cannot let it go. As far as I know CAHPI was formed for the sole purpose of implimenting the National Certification. That they have done so with the taxpayers money from CMHC says to me that they have a responsibilty to the industry and not just the members of CAHPI. We would not be in the dark about the National if the program had been forthcoming rather than keeping us in the dark. I will be at the convention and will be in the front row with you Nick to hear what Bill has to say.
Larry

[rwand1]

CAHPI is a private group, not a govenment entity. They have no duty to inform you of anything. No duty to be fair to you. And Bill certainly has no duty to speak at our convention.

Nick you continually show just how little you know. CAHPI has been given government money. Therefore there is a duty to provide information whether you like it or not!

[rwand1]

Anyone who knows me personally, knows I am a people person and knows that NAZI and scumbag are not words in Nick Gromicko's (the person's) vocabulary.

Nick just the other day you described Nahi as scumbags. Or how about that foolish email letter you sent Ted Gilmour out in BC? Or all the other times you found it convienant to call ASHI everthing under the sun. Now I see why Bill is so adamant about calling into question your ethics and actions and much of your activities. Just how much did Bill suck you in for for a fee?

Yes Nick it seems you change your mind regularly to suit your agenda.

[rwand1]

Larry

Before you open your mouth about me being able to let go you should look in the mirror. You touted your presidency and protested loudly about the Nathional etc. Nor have I and others seen anything from you other then a lot of talk?

Take a hike.

[rwand1]

Now, a desire to be controlled by the state is foreign to me, I admit, but as illogical as it is....it seems even more illogical that you would NOT want to hear from the spokesman who is most likely to be influencing the regulation that so many of you are so desperate to have.

James try and keep up, I know its difficult but... thats the problem everyone outside of CAHPI does not necessarily want what CAHPI and the National want. Yes we want licencing but with fair and equal treatment and input. That is not much to ask for. Every arguement you have made thus far is folly because you think you have the answers, which you don't.

[rwand1]

You guys are completely off the mark. Its not Bill you should be inviting to be key note speaker but someone from OAHI. If you have been paying attention which it appears you have not you would know what the game plan is with OAHI. Why do you think they hired a heavy weight to lobby the provincial goverment? Why do you think OAHI has researched self insurance. Why do you think there are two camps within OAHI, those who favour CAHPI and those that don't?

I am reading here just how little some of you know.

[Marcel Gratton]

Originally Posted by rwand1

You guys are completely off the mark. Its not Bill you should be inviting to be key note speaker but someone from OAHI. If you have been paying attention which it appears you have not you would know what the game plan is with OAHI. Why do you think they hired a heavy weight to lobby the provincial goverment? Why do you think OAHI has researched self insurance. Why do you think there are two camps within OAHI, those who favour CAHPI and those that don't?

I am reading here just how little some of you know.

Ray,

The way things are progressing, comes next year I may choose to join http://www.independentinspectors.org/

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by lewens

Well said Nick
The very fact that you have founded the world's largest home inspection association speaks volumns. Ray and Roy just cannot let it go. As far as I know CAHPI was formed for the sole purpose of implimenting the National Certification. That they have done so with the taxpayers money from CMHC says to me that they have a responsibilty to the industry and not just the members of CAHPI. We would not be in the dark about the National if the program had been forthcoming rather than keeping us in the dark. I will be at the convention and will be in the front row with you Nick to hear what Bill has to say.
Larry

Sorry for LARRY he gets a little information and then is an instant expert .
If it had not been for Ray and Roy no one would know anything about the National Certification.,not only that it would all ready be in place and all none CAHPI members would be on the outside wondering what had happened .
The plan was to have the National Certification all finished by 2007.
Larry CAHPI was originally formed as Canadian Association of Home Inspectors in thee early nineties Approx.
They Changed the Name to Canadian Association of Home and Property Inspectors around 2001 approx .
Larry I have no Idea what Issues you have with me or Ray but it might be a good Idea to get over it .
You have tried to embarrass me before and this is not good .
Please do not throw stones or I will retaliate .
OAHI started in about 1987 (and used the ASHI Bylaws and SOP as a Northern Branch of ASHI )( they still allow OAHI members to join ASHI with no exam and very reduced fees) and had a privates member bill that gave them the registered Home Inspector Bill 198 ( I think ) in about 1994.
They have been a almost closed door association since that time .
CAHPI is Made up of many of the Provincial association across Canada.
I am doing this all from memory so I could be off slightly but this gives some idea how this all goes together.
CAHPI Produces the Canadian Home Inspectors Magazine ( used to be called the Home Front ) (till about 2001 ) This is sent out to all members of CAHPI and a few who buy advertising in the Magazine.

Cookie

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by mgratton

Ray,

The way things are progressing, comes next year I may choose to join http://www.independentinspectors.org/

Marcel By the time next year rolls around this will all be history.
There will be lots of things different and we all will be so glad NACHI is here for all home inspectors to be able to communicate and help each other .

Good or NOT so good NACHI is far ahead of all the Other associations .
No other association allows any one to do and say what we do here.
Today I am an Idiot tomorrow I could be a hero.
Home inspections treat us great and I would hate to think what it would be like if there was no NACHI.
Been on the other side of the fence and it stinks big time.
13 days till Christmas 68 till NASCAR

Cookie.

[wforsyth]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Roy,

Try this: Strip away everything "personal" from your thinking. Strip away any bad dealings you had with CAHPI. Strip away any unfair expectations you have of them. What do you have left? A pretty decent association with a past President who is willing to tell us about a certification plan at our convention.

Sounds good to me.

Bravo Nick!!! Awesome advice. Business is business.