Bill Mullen wants to talk

[rwand1]

It's all about numbers. Insufficent numbers equals no certification, no interest. It's that simple.

Perhaps the best thing to do is to boycott the certification process.
In Ontario those who are members of OAHI and are RHI trump the National Certification.

There is no specific legislation granting CAHPI anything. They (CAHPI) set the rules as directed by the make up of provincial members. No accountability means your are irrelevent. Appointees report to their respective bodies who placed them in the positions they hold. Not in my opinion the best way to set up a so called self regulating certification body.

But what the hell do I know?

Raymond Wand
Alton, ON

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by rwand1

It's all about numbers. Insufficent numbers equals no certification, no interest. It's that simple.

Perhaps the best thing to do is to boycott the certification process.
In Ontario those who are members of OAHI and are RHI trump the National Certification.

Raymond Wand
Alton, ON

I think Ray is correct Ignore CHIBO11 the National certification .
They have completly ignored all our requests for information.
Now Bill with our help has set up another Information BLOG.
Bill now has his CANUK list the CAPHI web site and The CAHPI /ONTARIO CAFE.
Surprise none of the RHIs seem to be bothered.
I expect they too will just ignore the whole thing .
If by Chance some RHIs do go for it there is absolutly that this will Fly.
Without all Independant Inspectors and The Canadian NACHI members .
CAHPI will look silly peading for us (Those who have been treated like second class inspectors ) to please come aboard .
No way CAHPI/Ontario in over ten years has done nothing for the average Inspector except take their money .
NACHI has done Much for all Inspectors In Canada in the last two years.
Roy sr
A HAPPY NACHI Memeber

[Vern Mitchinson, CMI]

I've been on the blog and asked questions on two occasions. Bill answered them or referred me to CAPHI's site for answers to one of my questions.
However Ray & Roy had to throw some barbs at Bill. At first Bill was polite. Then Bill threw some barbs back and the fight was on. It's to bad the three of you insist on acting like 4 years olds. I agree with some of your points and disagree with others. In any event CHIBO's goal of certifying 5000 inspectors by 2007 is untenable.
The only way they can assess 5000 applicants in that time frame is to reject them because a serious review will take much longer. ASET took Three months to review and certify me as an Applied Science Technologist (A.Sc.T.) in Atchitecural Technology.

[rwand1]

Vern

Rather than address your concerns to the answers provided by Mr. Mullen here on this forum I suggest you post your further questions on the Blog where you can see and answer directly.

Sure is strange how Mr. Mullen picks obsecure discussion boards to get his message out.

Raymond Wand
Alton, ON

[rwand1]

From Inspectors Journal:

Test inspection with Peer Review (TIPR) is part of our National Certification program. I agree it is a daunting task, but feel it is necessary to ensure that even old-timers like me are doing inspections right. Yes, I will have to pass one.
We actually have some government money to develop the protocol and train 'reviewers' but the examination process should pay for itself.
We will train several 'reviewers' will will be very experienced inspectors. Hopefully, many will either be retired or close to retirement. We call them 'Emeritus Volunteers' although we will be paying them an honorarium. Inspectors being Peer Reviewed will pay a fee (amount still to be determined) which should offset the cost to CAHPI.
If we examine 5000 inspectors in a period of six months, that is about 200 per week. If we have a team of twenty examiners across Canada, that's only ten per week per examiner. We estimate that each examiner can process five or six people per day. Like most jobs, they don't seem so bad when you break them down into chunks.

Bill Mullen.

Oh really! 6 months for 5,000 inspectors! Here we go again.

Raymond Wand
Alton, ON.

[wjung]

Ray,
can't you see how easily this will work? At lets say 3 hours per inspection (if they do a proper inspection) and I am including in this time for reviewers discussion with the inspector being tested, times 6 inspectors per day, I see no problem. The 'Emeritus Volunteers' (retirees no less) will only work 18 hours a day doing this in order to earn their honorarium. I can see the volunteers line up already (NOT). However, before you even get started on me, Lunch and Coffee Breaks for these guys are out we can't afford the time and we can't have these guys working 19 hour days.
Ya right, someone should give their head a shake.
Sitting here thinking about this I am about ready to laugh my a** off.
Best regards
Wolf

[rwand1]

Hi Wolf,

I have a problem with much of what has been said. However I do like the concept of provincial licencing based on the National only. And get rid of self regulation which has not succeeded in over 10 years.

Raymond Wand
Alton, ON

[Vern Mitchinson, CMI]

Having questioned Bill several time on his blog I found out that the review of 5000 inspectors consists of a reviewer reviewing 6 - 8 per day. What are they reviewing.
Hold on to your hats people.
Bill is talking about reviewing the inspection reports on a sample house.
That is not an inspector review. It is a review of the inspectors report.
He is dreaming because I do not believe for a minute that any one can review and access 6 to 8 reports in one working day and do justice to the evaluation of the quality of that report. I spend a miniumin of 1 hour with my client reviewing my report and thats on top of the 3 to 4 hours doing the inspection.

Good luck Bull er Bill your are going to need it.

If he can gear up for 5000 reviews he may meet his time line but I would be very surprised if 2000 apply for this review. More then likely He willl be lucky if the 1000 or so CAPHI members line up for this.

[rwand1]

Thats the tip of the iceberg. I have other concerns as a member of OAHI.

Raymond Wand
Alton, ON

[rwand1]

Ontario Press Council
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Raymond Wand
Alton, ON

[Robert Francis]

Roy

Bill sure is not saying anything on his BLOG.

I am begining to believe its a smoke and mirror show, to keep CMHC happy????

[rwand1]

Bill who?

Raymond Wand
Alton, ON

[wjung]

Hey guy's I went on Bill's Blog last night just before midnight and found that all posts he found offensive, derogatory, obscene, challenging, inquisitive etc., including mine have been removed by the Blog’s administrator. Guess who the administrator is, you are right Bill Mullen. Now I ask you, how much confidence could anyone have in an individual like that to speak for the home inspection industry in Canada? I most certainly would not want him to speak on my behalf or work for my interests, as he claims he is. His way of operating is simple, I am the greatest, if I don't like what you say, write or think I will just shut you down, because I have the power. I am BIG BILL and I OWN this Blog. That's Bill now let's all make certain we bow down before the GREAT BILL and kiss his feet and/or any other part/orifice he may demand to have kissed.
By the way Ray, I don't know Bill Who.

Wolf

[wjung]

By the way the title of this Thread should be "Bill DOES NOT want to talk".

[Vern Mitchinson, CMI]

Well gentlemen I have found that Bill has answered my questions. however a wayne c has done his best to attack me inspite of my questions being simple stright forward and totally devoid of any comments that could be taken as personal. After his attack the next three messages were deleted. What was said only Bill knows. He should have deleted Wayne c's comments as well.
Why am I posting this here? Just to let you know that I will not be wasting my time on bill's blog and CAHPI's national initative. The truth is it is a CMHC/Ont thing and I would be very surprised if it flys in the west.

This is my last post to this "bill wants to talk". I have better thing to do. Thank You.