CAHPI/OAHI Conference

[rwand1]

Actually its more like....

Can't OAHI say anything that is truthful?

They lied about Cam being turfed (they said he resigned when he did not).
They said memberships are up when in fact they are not.
They said the treasurery is fine, but no one knows because no one has seen the actual details.
They said there was a $50 admission fee to yesterdays Kingston Seminar when in fact it was free.
They said members are afforded due process when they are not!
They direct members to follow the rules, when in fact the dictators are the ones who are in breach and violation of Pr 158 and the bylaws!

I can go on, but I think you get the point.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

As time goes on more information comes out.
It seems we are not getting the information on the National Certification is because they do not want the Canadian home inspectors to know.
They are not getting the results they had hoped for and that is why NACHI Canadian members are being wooed to try and bring up their numbers.
Well there looks like there are other changes being talked about .
The price increase due on Dec 31 2007 might not go through.
The different cost for NACHI members might be changed so they pay the same as OAHI members.
The National is in dire straights on funds and they need NACHI badly .
It looks like there is some people above the NCA who are giving directions big time possible more then one group.
The CAHPI/OAHI conference did not go near as smooth as some would like us to think.
As most know I have been called a liar many times by some of the NCA leaders but you have also seen most information on the NCA has arrived from the NACHI BB and not from the NCA leaders.

Sorry to say the more I hear and the more I see this sounds like whistler to me
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Remember Whistler
http://www.nachi.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4935
Bill has a big anouncement comming soon
http://www.nachi.org/forum/showpost.php?p=166560&postcount=103
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......Cookie

[rwand1]

I understand OAHI released a Cook Book to raise funds, but they had to recall books because there was a misprint in the title. The title reads "Cooked Books"!

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by rwand1

I understand OAHI released a Cook Book to raise funds, but they had to recall books because there was a misprint in the title. The title reads "Cooked Books"!

Many a true word said in jest ..... Cookie

[rwand1]

What? Did I say something wrong?

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

I heard Claude could be going on the OAHI DPPC , this would be great as they must be swamped with complaints.
My Charge against one of the Committee members has still not been taken care off 3 years old now.
This never happened when Rudolf or Raymond sat as the DPPC Chair.
....Cookie

[Bill Mullen]

Originally Posted by rcooke

As time goes on more information comes out.
It seems we are not getting the information on the National Certification is because they do not want the Canadian home inspectors to know.
Totally false. The information is out and has been available for a long time.
They are not getting the results they had hoped for and that is why NACHI Canadian members are being wooed to try and bring up their numbers.
Totally false. Within a few months we will have more than 300 National Certificate Holders. It may not be as many as we wanted but it is enough to satisfy the wishes of many organizations that have been watching and will be recommending National certificate Holders as the benchmark credential. This has already started big time. It would be nice to see NACHI members apply, but CAHPI is not losing any sleep over it. If they don't want to take advantage of a great thing, that's up to them.
Well there looks like there are other changes being talked about .
The price increase due on Dec 31 2007 might not go through.
Totally false. It has to go through because there will be two TIPR exams needed and they are very costly to run. The only change that is being contemplated is that some inspectors who belong to an association that has signed an Equivalency Agreement with the NCA might need to only do one TIPR. This has not been decided yet.
The different cost for NACHI members might be changed so they pay the same as OAHI members.
Totally False. The fees can't be reduced because they reflect the actual cost. If NACHI would agree to an Equivalency Evaluation that could change, but so far NACHI has refused.
The National is in dire straights on funds and they need NACHI badly .
Totally false. CAHPI National is in very good financial shape.
It looks like there is some people above the NCA who are giving directions big time possible more then one group.
Totally false. There are a few who WISH they could get their way, but that just isn't going to happen.
The CAHPI/OAHI conference did not go near as smooth as some would like us to think.
Totally false. It was a great success.
As most know I have been called a liar many times by some of the NCA leaders but you have also seen most information on the NCA has arrived from the NACHI BB and not from the NCA leaders.
Totally false. Oops, not quite. Yes, you have been called a liar a few times because you have lied.
As far as information, Claude and I have provided an incredible amount of information. Unfortunately, the information hasn't been what you wanted to hear so you either disregard it or can't understand it.

Sorry to say the more I hear and the more I see this sounds like whistler to me
You don't know squat about Whistler. The PDI project has been resurrected and will go forward as planned. It was put on the back burner until the National Certification Program was up and running successfully. CAHPI is now once again working on the PDI program and all who took the session at Whistler will get credit for it. That's what they were promised at Whistler and that's what they'll get.
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Remember Whistler
http://www.nachi.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4935
Bill has a big anouncement comming soon
http://www.nachi.org/forum/showpost.php?p=166560&postcount=103
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......Cookie

The 'big announcement' that you keep referring to was made, Roy. I just didn't bother posting it to the NACHI site because you have no appreciation of good news and you would twist it around to confuse the good NACHI members.

Roy, your fabrications don't help anyone. I don't know where you get your misinformation but that's exactly what it is. If this is stuff you heard at Kingston, it was just fales rumour. There was nobody in attendance at Kingston who has an intimate knowledge of the decisions or intent of the NCA. I do, and I can tell you that you are just plain wrong in just about everything you said in that message.

Bill Mullen

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Quote: Originally Posted by rcooke As time goes on more information comes out.
It seems we are not getting the information on the National Certification is because they do not want the Canadian home inspectors to know.
Totally false. The information is out and has been available for a long time. ...Where is it
They are not getting the results they had hoped for and that is why NACHI Canadian members are being wooed to try and bring up their numbers.
Totally false. Within a few months we will have more than 300 National Certificate Holders. It may not be as many as we wanted but it is enough to satisfy the wishes of many organizations that have been watching and will be recommending National certificate Holders as the benchmark credential. This has already started big time. It would be nice to see NACHI members apply, but CAHPI is not losing any sleep over it. If they don't want to take advantage of a great thing, that's up to them. ..Strange we have heard these same words many times.

Well there looks like there are other changes being talked about .
The price increase due on Dec 31 2007 might not go through.
Totally false. It has to go through because there will be two TIPR exams needed and they are very costly to run. The only change that is being contemplated is that some inspectors who belong to an association that has signed an Equivalency Agreement with the NCA might need to only do one TIPR. This has not been decided yet. ..Time will tell how well it is going.

The different cost for NACHI members might be changed so they pay the same as OAHI members.
Totally False. The fees can't be reduced because they reflect the actual cost. If NACHI would agree to an Equivalency Evaluation that could change, but so far NACHI has refused. ..Smart association that NACHI.

The National is in dire straights on funds and they need NACHI badly .
Totally false. CAHPI National is in very good financial shape. ..Good luck Bill others say differently.

It looks like there is some people above the NCA who are giving directions big time possible more then one group.
Totally false. There are a few who WISH they could get their way, but that just isn't going to happen. ..You should be so lucky.

The CAHPI/OAHI conference did not go near as smooth as some would like us to think.
Totally false. ..Bill I guess you where sleeping a lot at the conference.
It was a great success.
As most know I have been called a liar many times by some of the NCA leaders but you have also seen most information on the NCA has arrived from the NACHI BB and not from the NCA leaders.
Totally false. Oops, not quite. Yes, you have been called a liar a few times because you have lied..Yes we know you have and all your statements above are the truth ????..

As far as information, Claude and I have provided an incredible amount of information. .You are kidding only your self Bill..
Unfortunately, the information hasn't been what you wanted to hear so you either disregard it or can't understand it.

Sorry to say the more I hear and the more I see this sounds like whistler to me
You don't know squat about Whistler. The PDI project has been resurrected and will go forward as planned..That would be fantastic but some how looking at all your previous stories ..I wonder
It was put on the back burner until the National Certification Program was up and running successfully. CAHPI is now once again working on the PDI program and all who took the session at Whistler will get credit for it. .I do hope so and soon as at the speed it seems to be going many will have retired like you have told us you are..
That's what they were promised at Whistler and that's what they'll get.
.
Remember Whistler
http://www.nachi.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4935
Bill has a big anouncement comming soon
http://www.nachi.org/forum/showpost.php?p=166560&postcount=103
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......Cookie

Originally Posted by bmullen1

The 'big announcement' that you keep referring to was made, Roy. ..Gee Bill if thats the case why would you make so many anouncements on the NACHI site to not follow through with it .
Does that not tell every one your word is worth nothing.
I just didn't bother posting it to the NACHI site because you have no appreciation of good news and you would twist it around to confuse the good NACHI members.
..Oh! I see when things do not go your way you can always blame Roy.


Roy, your fabrications don't help anyone. I don't know where you get your misinformation but that's exactly what it is. If this is stuff you heard at Kingston, it was just fales rumour. .Nice try Bill But Kingston was a great meeting and nothing you can say will take any thing away from it..
There was nobody in attendance at Kingston who has an intimate knowledge of the decisions or intent of the NCA. I do, and I can tell you that you are just plain wrong in just about everything you said in that message.

Bill Mullen

.Sorry Bill but I expect some of my information might be not quite correct but you again say I am wrong and give out ZIP..
But I have had more then a couple of phone calls in the last few days thanking me for telling it like it is and how glad that the NACHI site is here for with out the NACHI BB there would be almost no information going out to the Canadian Home inspectors.
Stay tuned Bill I guess you too learn a lot at the NACHI site.
..... Cookie, ..
Bill fortunately many have learned they can trust me.

[rwand1]

I heard that Terry Carson went on a tirade about the National and OAHI at the Collingwood conference. Many members were flabbergasted at his behaviour and what he had to say. Even CMHC reps who were in the audience were taken aback by his tirade.

I have had this confirmed by a number of people. Quite frankly for someone who likes to give the appearance that he is above the crowd, he has shown just how controlling he is, and that is why OAHI is in trouble and why the National is not proceeding because of the infighting within OAHI.

Can you really trust OAHI to do the right things? It certainly doesn't look that way. I wonder what Mr. Carson would have to say about how he has mis portrayed Pr 158 and the use of RHI?

I have a few interesting questions for Mr. Carson and Mr. Segal the OAHI lawyer. Maybe they would like to respond on this forum?

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by rwand1

I heard that Terry Carson went on a tirade about the National and OAHI at the Collingwood conference. Many members were flabbergasted at his behaviour and what he had to say. Even CMHC reps who were in the audience were taken aback by his tirade.

I have had this confirmed by a number of people. Quite frankly for someone who likes to give the appearance that he is above the crowd, he has shown just how controlling he is, and that is why OAHI is in trouble and why the National is not proceeding because of the infighting within OAHI.

Can you really trust OAHI to do the right things? It certainly doesn't look that way. I wonder what Mr. Carson would have to say about how he has mis portrayed Pr 158 and the use of RHI?

I have a few interesting questions for Mr. Carson and Mr. Segal the OAHI lawyer. Maybe they would like to respond on this forum?

Gee I wonder why Bill did not hear this

(" The CAHPI/OAHI conference did not go near as smooth as some would like us to think.Totally false. It was a great success")
I really can not see Bill being asleep at this time .
Some how your information is different to what Bill said to me.
Somehow what others have said to me is different to what Bill is saying?
I wonder why?

...Cookie

[Bill Mullen]

Originally Posted by rcooke

Gee I wonder why Bill did not hear this

(" The CAHPI/OAHI conference did not go near as smooth as some would like us to think.Totally false. It was a great success")
I really can not see Bill being asleep at this time .
Some how your information is different to what Bill said to me.
Somehow what others have said to me is different to what Bill is saying?
I wonder why?

...Cookie

So you are saying that the fact Terry Carson was spewing his usual drivel means the CAHPI conference was not a success?

Terry Carson is convinced that his Bill 158 work was the best thing to ever hit home inspecting. He also believes that nothing exists beyond Toronto borders.

Get real, Roy. Of course I know about what he said, and I know why. His comments were baseless but not surprising from a dinosaur like him, but they have no effect whatsoever on the conference. I'm sure a few things negative were said at the NACHI Convention but that didn't make it a failure.

Good grief, Roy. Have you never paid attention when there are Home Inspectors gathered? If there are ten of us there will be twenty opinions about the same issue.

Bill Mullen

[Nick Gromicko]

CAHPI conference was a success, IMHO.

[Bill Mullen]

Originally Posted by rwand1

I heard that Terry Carson went on a tirade about the National and OAHI at the Collingwood conference. Many members were flabbergasted at his behaviour and what he had to say. Even CMHC reps who were in the audience were taken aback by his tirade.

I have had this confirmed by a number of people. Quite frankly for someone who likes to give the appearance that he is above the crowd, he has shown just how controlling he is, and that is why OAHI is in trouble and why the National is not proceeding because of the infighting within OAHI.

Can you really trust OAHI to do the right things? It certainly doesn't look that way. I wonder what Mr. Carson would have to say about how he has mis portrayed Pr 158 and the use of RHI?

I have a few interesting questions for Mr. Carson and Mr. Segal the OAHI lawyer. Maybe they would like to respond on this forum?

Raymond:

I agree with most of your comments. Bill 158 does not help home inspectors, it hinders them. It is also full of flaws and has been largely breached by OAHI for years.
However, you are incorrect that the National Certification is not proceeding. There have been obstacles but we have gradually overcome them. Within two or three months there will be more than 300 National Certificate Holders, and about half are from Ontario.

Bill Mullen

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by bmullen1

So you are saying that the fact Terry Carson was spewing his usual drivel means the CAHPI conference was not a success?

Terry Carson is convinced that his Bill 158 work was the best thing to ever hit home inspecting. He also believes that nothing exists beyond Toronto borders.

Get real, Roy. Of course I know about what he said, and I know why. His comments were baseless but not surprising from a dinosaur like him, but they have no effect whatsoever on the conference. I'm sure a few things negative were said at the NACHI Convention but that didn't make it a failure.

Good grief, Roy. Have you never paid attention when there are Home Inspectors gathered? If there are ten of us there will be twenty opinions about the same issue.

Bill Mullen

Bill you are just confirming what I was told ,sounds like the information I received and posted is true.

("The CAHPI/OAHI conference did not go near as smooth as some would like us to think. ")
.....Cookie

[rwand1]

1. No
2. Turns out that Terrys Bill (Pr 15 is not what it is purported to be. I love to hear his explanation on that one, and a few other explanations.
3. Roy, Bill is trying, his hands are tied. There are bigger players and too many politics behind the scenes.

Thanks guys,

Cheers,