Cahpi Wants You!!!!!!!!

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by bmullen1

This is a great week for all competent Canadian Home Inspectors.

Bill Mullen

Gee Bill is your face as red as your post .
To try and say I lie and you tell the truth .
This is so unfortunate for you to say that .
I guess you will have trouble rolling over in bed at night with your nose growing so long it could get damaged very easily.

Bill why not try and be nice and just answer the questions .
Why do you ignore a squirm so much . We all want what is best for all home inspectors and for you to just keep throwing stones does not help the industry at all.
Now would be great time to let it all hang out and give some answers.
You only make your self and CAHPI look bad by carring on the way you do .


Roy Cooke A very Happy NACHI member .

[rwand1]

This is a great week for all competent Canadian Home Inspectors.

Thanks I resemble that remark, especially today my ego was given a big boost when my clients told me that they have more faith in me than they do their high priced lawyer!

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Unfortunately I seem to not be getting much information on the National Certification .
Does any one remember reading that those who take the National Certification Must carry Eand O insurance.
I just received a information and much of it I had never seen before .
I wonder how people can be expected to go along with this lacking much information.
This is many pages long .
I wonder how many received an invite or information on the national Certification any where else but the NACHI site.
It sounds like to me that much of this information I just read has not been properly circulated .
Roy Cooke

[Bill Mullen]

Originally Posted by rcooke

Unfortunately I seem to not be getting much information on the National Certification .
Why do you feel everyone should rush out to send you information when all you do is ***** and complain?
Does any one remember reading that those who take the National Certification Must carry Eand O insurance.
I doubt it because it is not a requirement. It could be a requirement of some provinvial associations, but we consider insurance to be a provincial responsibility, so it is not mandated nationally.
I just received a information and much of it I had never seen before .
I wonder how people can be expected to go along with this lacking much information.
This is many pages long .
It sounds like you have received an Application for Background Review. Of course it's long. It's the place to write in your education, training and experience.
I wonder how many received an invite or information on the national Certification any where else but the NACHI site.
Everyone in Canada who showed an interest or who made themselves known to the NCP got an invitation.
It sounds like to me that much of this information I just read has not been properly circulated .
Roy Cooke

How would you have circulated it any better, Roy? Give us some positive ideas, e-mail addresses, etc. and we'll send out more invitations.

Bill Mullen

[rwand1]

Bill

When you attend the NACHI National Conference you should be sure to bring lots, and lots of applications for National Certification, you can hand them out along with NACHI's new National Certification CMI program which will be unveiled at the NACHI National Conference.

[Bill Mullen]

Originally Posted by rwand1

Bill

When you attend the NACHI National Conference you should be sure to bring lots, and lots of applications for National Certification, you can hand them out along with NACHI's new National Certification CMI program which will be unveiled at the NACHI National Conference.

Good luck with that. Anybody can invent a meaningless paper credential and sell it to some unsuspecting hopefuls.

Without the recognition and endorsment of CMHC and other government agencies and Real Estate associations, your new CMI won't get any work for anyone. You'll notice that CMHC has specified only National Certificate Holders, not some 'knock-off'.

If you wanted the CMI to have any chance of recognition, it should be submitted officially for an equivalency evaluation to the Natinal Certification Authority.

Bill Mullen

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by bmullen1

How would you have circulated it any better, Roy? Give us some positive ideas, e-mail addresses, etc. and we'll send out more invitations.

Bill Mullen

So strange after all the things you have called me and all the questions I have asked and you have not answered .
You now ask me how to get your information out better .

" Does any one remember reading that those who take the National Certification Must carry Eand O insurance.
I doubt it because it is not a requirement. It could be a requirement of some provinvial associations, but we consider insurance to be a provincial responsibility, so it is not mandated nationally "
This is where I got the infomation regarding E&O and I quote from a a paper with your name on the bottom of the last page with your signature
Bill Mullen RHI
Project Coordinator rev.July 27

Where are we now and the Next ...Steps
Report to the National Certification Authority July 2006 page 7of7

I guote from page 5 of 7
"(4) Certification:
The NCC has met once in person and has corresponded continuosly. Approximately 80% of the Pilot Project applicants have had their dossiers examined and reviewed.
The NCC is also reviewing some additional files . The NCC is re ready to recommend a large number for Certification once they receive confirmationation of E&O Insurance coverage and a 'Hold Harmless'letter for the NCA.The Coorrdinator has been working with our lawyer and insuurer to prepare these.We expect that both are almost ready.
The administrator has been trying to contact some Piliot Project Participants who need to provide additional to complete their files.

There has been good response to the broad invitation, this Council and the Administrator will be quite busy. The Pilot Project has allowed for the development of the necessary forms and procedures but some office routines will need to be developed to facilitate the influx of applications."

Now in the past if I or Raymond had things said like this YOU MR. MULLEN would Immediatly jump on us and Call us a &&&& LIAR and you have done this considerable times .
After you treating us in this manner can you now tell me why I should not have just a little hard feelings towards you
There is much more in these 7 pages that I new nothing about .

Roy Cooke ....RHI,CHI,CMI,CAHPI-ON,CAHPI-ONT.
Proud to be a Member of NACHI 103111906

[rwand1]

But Bill... its only an endorsement, and its not reconized as legislation, but rather another self regulating body set up as a non profit corporation. It does little to protect the public because it has no teeth. Na da. Besides with the goings on in OAHI those folks in Ontario would be well advised to stay clear of it until such time as OAHI comes clean and cleans up its special interests and appointment of questionable people as TIPR inspectors.

Have you seen those Aces from the deck of cards? Check your sleeves.

[Bill Mullen]

Originally Posted by rcooke

So strange after all the things you have called me and all the questions I have asked and you have not answered .
You now ask me how to get your information out better .

" Does any one remember reading that those who take the National Certification Must carry Eand O insurance.
I doubt it because it is not a requirement. It could be a requirement of some provinvial associations, but we consider insurance to be a provincial responsibility, so it is not mandated nationally "
This is where I got the infomation regarding E&O and I quote from a a paper with your name on the bottom of the last page with your signature
Bill Mullen RHI
Project Coordinator rev.July 27

Where are we now and the Next ...Steps
Report to the National Certification Authority July 2006 page 7of7

I guote from page 5 of 7
"(4) Certification:
The NCC has met once in person and has corresponded continuosly. Aproximately 80% of the Pilot Project applicants have had their dossiers examined and reviewed.
The NCC is also reviewingsome additional files . The NCC is re ready to recommend a large number for Certification once they receive confirmationation of E&O Insurance coverage and a 'Hold Harmless'letter for the NCA.The Coorrdinator has been working with our lawyer and insuurer to preparethese.We expect that both are almost ready.
The administrator has been tryingto contact some Piliot Progetct Participants who need to provide additional to complete their files.

There has been good response to the broad invitation, this Council and the Administrator will be quite busy. The Pi;ot Project has allowedfor the development of the necessary forms and procedures but some office routines will need to be developed to facilate the influx of applications."

Now in the past if I or Raymond had things said like this YOU MR MULLEN would Immediatly jump on us and Call us a &&&& LIAR and you have done this considerable times .
After you treating us in this manner can you now tell me why I should not have just a little hard feelings towards you
There is much more in these 7 pages that I new nothing about .

Roy Cooke ....RHI,CHI,CMI,CAHPI-ON,CAHPI-ONT.
Proud to be a Member of NACHI 103111906

These are taken from an internal report from me, the Project Coordinator, to the National Certification Authority. There are no secrets in there, but it's merely an update from me to them.

The E & O that I mention in that report is for members of the National Certification Council. CAHPI and the NCA believe in protecting their volunteers by providing insurance protection for their decisions. It's the proper and business-like way to do business. It has absolutely nothing to do with any requirement for E & O for applicants.

Frankly, Roy, I really don't care whether or not you have 'hard feelings' for me. I consider you to be nothing more than an unfortunate waste of my time. I feel sorry for your fellow NACHI members in Canada, however, because you have done everything in your power to deprive NACHI of any chance to gain any recognition from those who really count in Canada.

Please reread the endorsement from CMHC for National Certificate Holders. Too bad you aren't one.

Bill Mullen

[Bill Mullen]

Originally Posted by rwand1

But Bill... its only an endorsement, and its not reconized as legislation, but rather another self regulating body set up as a non profit corporation. It does little to protect the public because it has no teeth. Na da. Besides with the goings on in OAHI those folks in Ontario would be well advised to stay clear of it until such time as OAHI comes clean and cleans up its special interests and appointment of questionable people as TIPR inspectors.

Have you seen those Aces from the deck of cards? Check your sleeves.

Legislation is not needed or wanted. CMHC is the recognized voice of housing in Canada. What they say pretty well goes. If they give thier blessing to something (and they have) it is regarded as reliable by everyone else who has anything to do with housing.

The NCP is a National program, so I don't see why you keep mentioning OAHI. They have no control over it whatsoever. OAHI has never appointed any TIPR inspectors and will not be.

Yes, Raymond, I have all the aces.

Bill Mullen

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by bmullen1

These are taken from an internal report from me, the Project Coordinator, to the National Certification Authority. There are no secrets in there, but it's merely an update from me to them.

The E & O that I mention in that report is for members of the National
That is not what it says " The NCC is re ready to recommend a large number for Certification once they receive confirmationation of E&O Insurance coverage and a 'Hold Harmless'letter for the NCA "...
Certification Council. CAHPI and the NCA believe in protecting their volunteers by providing insurance protection for their decisions. It's the proper and business-like way to do business. It has absolutely nothing to do with any requirement for E & O for applicants.

Frankly, Roy, I really don't care whether or not you have 'hard feelings' for me. I consider you to be nothing more than an unfortunate waste of my time.
..What a great way ror a leader to act
I feel sorry for your fellow NACHI members in Canada, however,
.Why would you say I deprived them I and others just asked for infoamtion and this was not given . As my post above shows there is still lots of information that has not come out .
How could I or others tell people that the NC is a great thing when we can not get the whole story and questions do not get answered ..
because you have done everything in your power to deprive NACHI of any chance to gain any recognition from those who really count in Canada.

Please reread the endorsement from CMHC for National Certificate Holders. Too bad you aren't one..This is just one more example where things have been handled incorectly I was the first for sure to have the application to CAHPI head quarters ,and they did not except my application. .

Bill Mullen

Are you trying to say because CMHC gives an endorsement it is great.
Sorry Bill until all the information comes out I will sit in limbo and keep trying to find the truth.
.And Bill no matter how you say it or post it . I am not "a F***ING Liar"

I still feel all Home inspectors deserve to be treated equally
NACHI,CAHPI or those who have no affiliation

Roy Cooke A Happy NACHI Member

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by bmullen1

Yeah, and you guys picked the wrong door.

Sorry, but there is no deal between CAHPI and NACHI. There have not even been talks and based on the attitude (mockery and derision) displayed here lately there won't be anytime soon. You can't BUY a National Certificate and you sure as heck can't get GRANDFATHERED into it.

You can't just 'adopt' the National Certification. It's an 'earned credential', but then again around here that's an unfamiliar term. Send your $ 350. to Nick if you wish, but all you'll get in return is another worthless piece of paper. I hope Vern is getting a commission, because he's carrying the ball for this farce. I'm sure his 'reliable source' is his over-active imagination.

Bill Mullen

Thanks for confirming this Bill when I read this I was wondering about it .
From what I have found out the EARNED CREDENTIAL is very sick and it does not sound well.
Now the $350:00 that Vern is talking about is so very close to some figures of yours from your July 2006 "Where we are with the National Certification.....and The Next steps and I quote from Challenges:
2. Financial:
Test Inspections with peer Review: The TIPR process has defined the credibility of the entire program.Through the TIPR'S we are able to actually monitor and evaluate the practical competence of practitioners.Based on the sessions so far,we need to budget between $ 200. and $ 250. per participant. .this will cover costs provided that examiners adhere faithfully to the budget guidelines specified by the Chief Examiner."

The red was not in the original document I did it so it stands out
This is just the sort of information we at NACHI have been pleading for all along and it has not been forth comming .
This to me confirms what has been said all along CAHPI is trying to make it easier and Cheaper to take the National Certification by joining CAHPI.
They are trying to squeeze NACHI out of Canada .
CAHPI members $500;00 NACHI members $1,100:00 ( Not Fair)
NACHI has shown fair play and has allowed CAHPI full use of the NACHI Bulletin Board and asked for nothing in return.
NACHI has given Two Booths for free to allow CAHPI and OAHI to use as they wish.

With how NACHI treats all home inspectors it is easy to see why they continue to grow while other association are shrinking.

I look forward to more information as it comes along on the post of Vern's and the $350:00 cost for National Certification .
Sounds like a winner to me
.
Roy Cooke

[Bill Mullen]

Originally Posted by rcooke

Thanks for confirming this Bill when I read this I was wondering about it .
From what I have found out the EARNED CREDENTIAL is very sick and it does not sound well.
Now the $350:00 that Vern is talking about is so very close to some figures of yours from your July 2006 "Where we are with the National Certification.....and The Next steps and I quote from Challenges:
2. Financial:
Test Inspections with peer Review: The TIPR process has defined the credibility of the entire program.Through the TIPR'S we are able to actually monitor and evaluate the practical competence of practitioners.Based on the sessions so far,we need to budget between $ 200. and $ 250. per participant. .this will cover costs provided that examiners adhere faithfully to the budget guidelines specified by the Chief Examiner."

The red was not in the original document I did it so it stands out
This is just the sort of information we at NACHI have been pleading for all along and it has not been forth comming .
This to me confirms what has been said all along CAHPI is trying to make it easier and Cheaper to take the National Certification by joining CAHPI.
They are trying to squeeze NACHI out of Canada .
CAHPI members $500;00 NACHI members $1,100:00 ( Not Fair)
NACHI has shown fair play and has allowed CAHPI full use of the NACHI Bulletin Board and asked for nothing in return.
NACHI has given Two Booths for free to allow CAHPI and OAHI to use as they wish.

With how NACHI treats all home inspectors it is easy to see why they continue to grow while other association are shrinking.

I look forward to more information as it comes along on the post of Vern's and the $350:00 cost for National Certification .
Sounds like a winner to me
.
Roy Cooke

Only problem is, Vern does not have The National Certification to offer to anyone for any price. Second, nobody will get the true National certification for as little as $ 350. when each TIPR costs at least $ 200. to $ 250. per applicant and some apllicants will have to take two or three TIPR exams. The TIPR expense is only one part of the overall costs.

Send Vern your $ 350. and see just how valuable the piece of paper he sends you really is, and who recognizes it.

Of course CAHPI wants people to join CAHPI and of course they have made it less expensive for someone willing to join CAHPI, because it costs much less to process a member than a non-member. CAHPI is the National organization in Canada for Home Inspectors. Why wouldn't they offer the odd incentive to join? I see NACHI offering incentives every day and I don't see anything wrong with that.
CAHPI was created to develop and administer the National Certification of Canadian Home Inspectors. CAHPI is just doing what it was asked to do.
Nobody is trying to squeeze NACHI out of anything. We're merely offering home inspectors a valid credential that is recognized and accepted by anyone that matters.

Bill Mullen

[Darrell B. Hadler]

Originally Posted by bmullen1

We're merely offering home inspectors a valid credential that is recognized and accepted by anyone that matters.

Bill Mullen

Don't flatter yourself Bill...most of those people have their head so far up their own *****es, they'll never see the light of day as long as they'll live...or their noses buried up someone elses.........you get the idea

Most people that think they really "matter"...... really don't matter much at all, only to themselves and their own little society. Your valid credential doesn't mean crap to regular folk and myself included. Still spread'in it by the bucket full? eh,...maybe I can get you a deal on a front-end loader?? I'll see what I can do for ya.

[Bill Mullen]

Originally Posted by dhadler

Don't flatter yourself Bill...most of those people have their head so far up their own *****es, they'll never see the light of day as long as they'll live...or their noses buried up someone elses.........you get the idea

Most people that think they really "matter"...... really don't matter much at all, only to themselves and their own little society. Your valid credential doesn't mean crap to regular folk and myself included. Still spread'in it by the bucket full? eh,...maybe I can get you a deal on a front-end loader?? I'll see what I can do for ya.

I really don't think CMHC, HRSDC, CREA, Relocation companies, etc. have their heads up their *****es, but you have a right to your own wrong opinion.

The title of this thread is 'CAHPI wants you !!!!!!. In your case, Darrel, we don't. Send your money to Vern and he'll hand-write you yet another worthless piece of paper.

Bill Mullen