Canadian government recognizes CMI. Thank you Roy Cooke!

[dpotts]

Originally Posted by Raymond E. Wand

CMI is meaningless, otherwise we would hear every Canadian holder of the designation singing its value. I have only seen two Canadians tout its benefits!

Btw where is Roy Cooke, I haven't seen nor heard him touting and defending the title?

Haven't heard Bob Francis defending the title, haven't heard Bill, or Claude defending it, nor Bob Brown, Stuart Leigh, .......

The only value it seems to hold is that which Nick and party feel its worth. What other stance could they take? Its not successful in Canada as evidenced by the numbers.

Perhaps I will list being CMI on my website for a month and see if it brings in the business as claimed.

So it's just as meaningless as any other designation. Why does it bother you so much that RHI, CMI, CHI or that other BS TV program CSI even exist. You purport yourself to be successfull without a designation, so what are you afraid of if the the rest of the world continues to revolve?

[John McKenna]

Good post Jim.

It is funny how some say CMI is too easy to fake and therefore meaningless,
but when asked, cannot produce one example. And those who have
experienced a marketing increase through CMI are suppose to believe the
little voices of those who say "you did not". LOL...

If I know I indeed meet the qualifications of CMI and I have indeed
experienced it's marketing benefits, then all the voices of the little people
cannot change what I know to be true. This is why CMI's don't really
care and just keep whistling all the way to the bank.

Every inspector who list their experience, association membership,
educational designations, licensing, or that they are insured,
are in fact marketing those items. And well they should, as it is just
common sense to do so.

There is nothing immoral about telling the public that you are a better
inspector, especially if it is true. CMI's are just displaying the fact
that they have achieved a certain level of experience and education
that is indeed a fact.

[Raymond E. Wand]

Doug

Stay factual will ya. I was following along until you mentioned TV and CSI....

[Raymond E. Wand]

John

What is the ongoing support for CMI? What outside oversight is there for this program if its made up of mostly vendors?

[dpotts]

Originally Posted by Raymond E. Wand

Doug

Stay factual will ya. I was following along until you mentioned TV and CSI....

So answer the question.

[Raymond E. Wand]

Doug

I am not afraid of anything. What concerns me is the questionable nature in which some of these so called easily obtained accreditations are actually valid. If you compare apples to apples and not apples to oranges.

[John McKenna]

Originally Posted by Raymond E. Wand

Doug

I am not afraid of anything. What concerns me is the questionable nature in which some of these so called easily obtained accreditations are actually valid. If you compare apples to apples and not apples to oranges.

Your only concern is redeeming your wounded feelings of insecurity
by an endless attempt of mocking the association that has rejected you.

This all about you, that's all. Your afraid of looking weak.

[dpotts]

Originally Posted by Raymond E. Wand

Doug

I am not afraid of anything. What concerns me is the questionable nature in which some of these so called easily obtained accreditations are actually valid. If you compare apples to apples and not apples to oranges.

Ray; maybe wre getting somewhere, just explain what is an apple and what is an orange?

[Claude Lawrenson]

Actually Ray - I have tried to get Humber College home inspection program recognized through the CMI Education stream. But so far no luck! So much for "ministry recognized" post graduate studies.

Yes, and that would likely label me a "vendor" although I am not the owner of the college, but just one of the instructors.

[Raymond E. Wand]

Doug

Orange=NACHI/CMI
Apples=OAHI/CAHPI/ASHI

You should be able to appreciate the difference given you are a member of OAHI and a student of an accredited college course. Accredited is the key word. And for the record anyone who has followed my posts knows that I have always stated that college level home inspection courses are far superior when you look at all the other options out there.

Claude does Humber recognize CMI. I know you said CMI does not recognize Humber College home inspection course, why is that?

[dpotts]

Originally Posted by Raymond E. Wand

Doug

Orange=NACHI/CMI
Apples=OAHI/CAHPI/ASHI

You should be able to appreciate the difference given you are a member of OAHI and a student of an accredited college course. Accredited is the key word. And for the record anyone who has followed my posts knows that I have always stated that college level home inspection courses are far superior when you look at all the other options out there.

Claude does Humber recognize CMI. I know you said CMI does not recognize Humber College home inspection course, why is that?

Once Again I agree, I have difficulty, however, because no courses exist to truly train the blind eye of no experience. Why is it so difficult to admit the fact that not long ago no HI in ontario had any credentials but their own experience? You're Assuming that these profitable courses prepare the inexperienced to make a carreer of HI. All education providers are "for profit" just like any other business. It's protectionist which it should be, and the inevitable fact that your shoes will be filled should be reserved for those with education, training and most of all experience in maintenance, renovation and construction fields. This is what the industry was built on!

[Raymond E. Wand]

Thats why mentoring and apprenticeship is required. There are book smarts and their are field smarts. The idea is to have both under your belt so that one may have the best of both worlds.

In the real world of inspecting college diplomas will be the new norm. If I had to do it all over again that is the route I would take. I think a college diploma in home inspections is of more value than an designation granted by some voluntary association in my opinion.

[dpotts]

Originally Posted by Raymond E. Wand

Thats why mentoring and apprenticeship is required. There are book smarts and their are field smarts. The idea is to have both under your belt so that one may have the best of both worlds.

In the real world of inspecting college diplomas will be the new norm. If I had to do it all over again that is the route I would take. I think a college diploma in home inspections is of more value than an designation granted by some voluntary association in my opinion.

So can I infer that you agree with me?

[Nick Gromicko]

Claude writes:

I have tried to get Humber College home inspection program recognized through the CMI Education stream. But so far no luck!

Huh?

First we heard of it. Approved! It's a very good program. I have all the literature regarding it.

Again, approved.

[Raymond E. Wand]

Approved by whom?