Canadian government recognizes CMI. Thank you Roy Cooke!

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by mkyriacou

But it's not verified! The RHI or NC is verified, my question stands, Brian, why are you ONLY an applicant and not a RHI or NC holder?

Mario:

You seem to have forgotten a few private E-mails we exchanged on 8/16/2007 10:48 AM. Do I have your permission to release your side of them?
Here's one of mine to yourself:

Mario:
>
>I'm barely a member of CAHPI Atlantic! After 5 years of membership, I'm
>still at the applicant (or student) stage. Although still an "Applicant",
>our education committee has asked me to review and improve the new defect
>recognition course text recently purchased from OAHI or CAHPI National!!
>When I took the defect course 3 years ago, I had to interupt the class
>quite a few times to offer corrections or more complete information for the
>rest of the class.
>
>I may get "pushed" to move up soon as I'm supposedly only allowed to be at
>this level for 3 or 4 years. I don't think the level of qualifications for
>entry to this profession are near high enough. CAHPI Atlantic has been
>developing/ed a points list of requirements so that a person must at least
>be willing to expend some $$$$$ and personal energy to get started. See:
>http://www.cahpi-atl.com/visitors/inspector.php
>
>Since NACHI /CMI does not require any proctored exams, I probably will
>never join even though the Boards are great. I call the certification "web
>fiction". About 2 years ago, I did a duplex for a couple who were
>considering it for their first investment property. He seemed quite
>conversant in building terms so I asked what he did. He was an student
>appraiser (I used to train the student class every 2 years in house
>systems) This generated a bit of discussion about the current training. We
>got about 25 minutes into the inspection when he revealed to me that he was
>a NACHI certified home inspector!!! He said that in the first 25 minutes he
>had learned so much from my inspection that he was glad he didn't hang out
>a shingle and get himself in trouble!! First time I'd heard of NACHI.
>
>So I guess I'll always be an outsider, even here. I'm hoping the NCA route
>works. I'll do that.
>
>By the way, I see your quite versed in the building trades and post good
>info. Wasn't quoting the OBC but the NBC which must be quite close to OBC.
>
>Regards,
>Brian

[Raymond E. Wand]

Brian

Here is another board where you should be posting!

http://www.gogetforum.com/?mforum=provincialcfihi

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by mkyriacou

Brian,

The same could be said about the NCP! How many CAPHI members have that designation? 100 or so? No it's getting up a bit above that. I believe another 300-400 applied before the end of 2007. I've seen quite a few NCH designations added to the local website this spring. It was stated that 5000 HI would be NC holders, it's not happening is it? That was not my statement. When a critical mass of NCH's evolve, I think you will see a lot more orgs recognizing and promoting it. I was told the Canadian Realtors Assoc have been a supporter of the program and if they're on board, banks and others won't be far behind. The other thing is that the industry in Canada has been screwed up and fragmented....it's been hard to believe that this will really happen.....as you know, good things take time and $$$$, so HI's had taken the wait and see approach, but that's changing. And IMO it will NEVER happen. Do we have 5,000 HI's in canada??
BTW With all your qualifications that you list, why are you only an applicant? Are you comfortable with this designation?

Quite comfortable at present. In the last 3 weeks I have had referrals from 3 municipal building inspectors/supervisors. The last inspection I did on Friday was for a building inspectors son......after his father had already been through the house.

Last year I was in court against an RHI........ last fall he sold his business. I'm recognized as an expert witness here. Am working on a litigation against an architect and builder now. This past week had a recommendation from an RHI on a property he didn't feel comfortable doing due to some construction techniques.

For those in the know, reputation seems to precede designations here.

[Mario A. Kyriacou, CHI]

Brian,

I'm very surprised that you would save an e-mail exchange between us! And NO you do NOT have my permission to post my e-mail to you. I guess your delete function is not working!

If you are OK with the student/applicant status than I wish you all the best with your business!! One question, do you advertise this designation on your marketing material and/or your business card?
Just curious.

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by mkyriacou

Brian,

I'm very surprised that you would save an e-mail exchange between us! And NO you do NOT have my permission to post my e-mail to you. interesting,,,,wery, wery interesting!!!! I guess your delete function is not working!

If you are OK with the student/applicant status than I wish you all the best with your business!! One question, do you advertise this designation on your marketing material and/or your business card?
Just curious.

This is obviously not for your own consumption since I also sent my website address in that email (the only thing I deleted out of it). SO you already know the answer. Why not give it to the board!!


PS: so if you do not want me to inform the board about that email to me regarding what you would have liked to do, why don't you inform the board of the gist of your comments?

Somedays are like this: Life's a ***** and then you die!

[Nick Gromicko]

Hate to burst your little bubble but use of proctored exams harm consumers and unproctored exams help consumers.

[Bill Mullen]

Originally Posted by mkyriacou

Brian,

The same could be said about the NCP! How many CAPHI members have that designation? 100 or so? It was stated that 5000 HI would be NC holders, it's not happening is it? And IMO it will NEVER happen.
BTW With all your qualifications that you list, why are you only an applicant? Are you comfortable with this designation?

The latest number of National Certificate Holders stands at 160 give or take a couple and there are more than another 300 now being processed, so by summer there should be close to 500 National Certificate Holders across Canada, and about 200 to 250 will be in Ontario. It really doesn't matter if 500 or 5000 get that designation, because at 400 or 500 across Canada, the designation has now been recognized and promoted by government agencies and Realtor associations.

I'm not arguing, Mario, I just thought you'd want the actual numbers.

Bill Mullen

[Claude Lawrenson]

Actually within the last month 33 BC inspectors took the TIPR, 15 in Quebec, and another 20 from Ontario. We are still trying to keep up. Additionally, 35 more Ontario inspectors are now added to the list, just recently approved and ready to take their TIPR.

[Mario A. Kyriacou, CHI]

Originally Posted by Brian A. MacNeish

This is obviously not for your own consumption since I also sent my website address in that email (the only thing I deleted out of it). SO you already know the answer. Why not give it to the board!!


PS: so if you do not want me to inform the board about that email to me regarding what you would have liked to do, why don't you inform the board of the gist of your comments?

Somedays are like this: Life's a ***** and then you die!

Brian,

Is that an East coast saying (life's a ***** and then you die?) or did you hear that on TV?

You have not answered my question, do you use Student/Applicant as a designation below your name on your business cards and marketing material?

Here is my take on this, CMI Certified Master Inspector and CHI Certified Home Inspector is self explanatory, However RHI Registered Home Inspector and NCH National Certificate Holder #1111 don't really mean much!Furthermore can you imagine what Student/Applicant on any printed material would say to potential clients?
See the difference Brian? You are correct, for some life is a *****, for me life is GRAND, and sooner or later we all die

[Mario A. Kyriacou, CHI]

Canadian government... 4/6/08 11:43 AM right back at you asshole GBell
Thanks Greg!! But I didn't call you an ****hole and I didn't private message you and tell you to go **** yourself, you did both these things. You need to grow up my Friend. I gave you a red for negative comments made about the CMI designation. You have been a member of NACHI longer than I have but you are not a loyal supporter of NACHI. It seems to me that you are loyal only when it's convenient to you as a vendor.
I'm sure if you and I were to be face to face you would refrain from saying all this BS to me. However if you feel otherwise, I will be in your home state at inspection universe and we can talk about it!!

[Raymond E. Wand]

Hate to burst your little bubble but use of proctored exams harm consumers and unproctored exams help consumers.

Nick can you refer me to a document or research paper that supports your statement?

Thanks,

[Raymond E. Wand]

Claude

Just out of interest how many have signed up in Alberta and BC?

Thanks,

[Raymond E. Wand]

Here is my take on this, CMI Certified Master Inspector and CHI Certified Home Inspector is self explanatory, However RHI Registered Home Inspector and NCH National Certificate Holder #1111 don't really mean much!Furthermore can you imagine what Student/Applicant on any printed material would say to potential clients?

Heres my take.... CHI and CMI are just as irrelevant as are the number of members in NACHI Canada. The facts are CAHPI-OAHI has you outnumbered as does ASTTC-BC, soon Alberta, and Quebec. Please also take into consideration CAHPI/National has already caught the attention of realtors, insurance and bankers. What has Nachi done on this front?

Reality is Nachi is not on anybodies radar in Canada except maybe in Alberta.

[Mario A. Kyriacou, CHI]

Originally Posted by bmullen

The latest number of National Certificate Holders stands at 160 give or take a couple and there are more than another 300 now being processed, so by summer there should be close to 500 National Certificate Holders across Canada, and about 200 to 250 will be in Ontario. It really doesn't matter if 500 or 5000 get that designation, because at 400 or 500 across Canada, the designation has now been recognized and promoted by government agencies and Realtor associations.

I'm not arguing, Mario, I just thought you'd want the actual numbers.

Bill Mullen

Thanks for the clarification Bill,

[Mario A. Kyriacou, CHI]

Originally Posted by Raymond E. Wand

Heres my take.... CHI and CMI are just as irrelevant as are the number of members in NACHI Canada. The facts are CAHPI-OAHI has you outnumbered as does ASTTC-BC, soon Alberta, and Quebec. Please also take into consideration CAHPI/National has already caught the attention of realtors, insurance and bankers. What has Nachi done on this front?

Reality is Nachi is not on anybodies radar in Canada except maybe in Alberta.

Here go again..mine is bigger than yours!!