Canadian government recognizes CMI. Thank you Roy Cooke!

[Raymond E. Wand]

Never mind the $75, some got theirs for free! Free; I tell ya! Free!

[Nick Gromicko]

It was $175 for the first week and then everyone complained that it was too cheap. No one got theirs for free. I personally paid for some InterNACHI members and I personally put up and sent my own $375 check in several www.nachi.org/dailydoorprize.htm . If I recall, Canadian Bob Francis won one of my $375 checks which he could then use to pay for CMI. I mailed him my personal check.

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by gromicko

It was $175 for the first week and then everyone complained that it was too cheap. No one got theirs for free.

Make'em feel like it's worth more.....just charge more! No matter what the cost, it's still just the same....... a marketing gimmick. (as called by an INACHI member!!!)
PS: BTW, is he still allowed to speak?

[Nick Gromicko]

Anyway, I can think of no higher or better title for a professional designation:

"Certified Master Inspector"

and now it is protected by a Canadian Trademark.

[Nick Gromicko]

Brian, show us all a professional designation that isn't used by it's holders for marketing purposes. Why do you think we went through all the trouble to Trademark it? Duh.

I'll make it easy on you... you can draw from any profession, you are not limited to the inspection industry.

I'll bet you can't post one in the next 48 hours... go!

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Brian, show us all a professional designation that isn't used by it's holders for marketing purposes. Why do you think we went through all the trouble to Trademark it? Duh.

I'll make it easy on you... you can draw from any profession, you are not limited to the inspection industry.

I'll give you 48 hours to post one... go!

I'm not complaining about using a professional designation but the level of experience/education that gives a "master" designation. Other than those who presently use it for its marketing value and others aspiring for a place in the severely shrinking market, find out how many truly believe it's a decent many INACHI members who post here have not added the designation to their credentials although all they gave to to is register and send the check.....why is this???

[Raymond E. Wand]

Brian, show us all a professional designation that isn't used by it's holders for marketing purposes.

Its not only for marketing purposes. It is also an accreditation which was created by legislation. Many professional bodies require members to display the association logo, or state membership. This is also an assurance to the public..

[Nick Gromicko]

Ray, you are incorrect:

99%+ of all accreditations are created by private entities. Governments at most give out a license (and in many states and countries like Canada they don't even do that for the inspection industry).

For instance... the word "REALTOR" is a PRIVATE TRADEMARK! The government licenses real estate agents and brokers and about 1/2 of them become REALTORs... members of the National Association of REALTORs (a private trade association like InterNACHI and IAC2).

[Nick Gromicko]

Brian writes:

IMO, anything less than 10 years full time in the HI business and 2,500 or so inspections plus CE is a negative aspect of the program.

In the inspection profession, which has an average life expectancy of less than 3 years, only 1 in about 350 inspectors reach their 10th year. Your proposal would be out of wack in comparison to other professional designations (even ones with the word "master" in them such as "master plumber").

And furthermore, CMI has other requirements.

[Bill Mullen]

Originally Posted by gluck

"cheque for $ 75.00" !!?!

What cheap buggers got theirs for $75.00 ?! Mine cost way more than that and I had to send them the registration for my car and all my Publisher's clearing house entries too !
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I mispoke and I apologize. There should have been a '1' in front of the 75 making it $ 175.00.

Ya know, with a little help some of us could make the CMI and the NCP pretty similar. I know a couple people of influence who could make it happen.

Nick was good enough to pay for my CMI out of his own pocket as a friend and I appreciate that a lot. I doubt the ownership papers for my 1994 Dodge van would have covered much of the cost.

Bill Mullen

[Nick Gromicko]

If you go back through the archived message boards you will note that originally I wanted to make CMI totally free like www.IAC2.org is but no one wanted it for free... probably the same with your 1994 Dodge van .

[Nick Gromicko]

Bill Mullen writes

Ya know, with a little help some of us could make the CMI and the NCP pretty similar. I know a couple people of influence who could make it happen.

We'll get there... anything good in this world takes time to build. The Canadian government Trademark was just another step.

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Brian writes:



In the inspection profession, which has an average life expectancy of less than 3 years, only 1 in about 350 inspectors reach their 10th year. Your proposal would be out of wack in comparison to other professional designations (even ones with the word "master" in them such as "master plumber").

And furthermore, CMI has other requirements.

Well, stop pumping out so many "certified" inspectors to keep the merry-go-round going. It appears that with that many going out of the business each year, if there are not large numbers being induced to become an HI by use of close to instant, cheap and easy "certification" and with help from the misleading ads ($10,000 to $30,000 per month revenue) from franchisors, etc., the merry-go-round will stop!!

The stats you claim are not, and will never be a reason, to have such low requirements for a "Master" designation. I wonder if those other trades and professions have such a high turnover rate as ours. The extreme turnover rate signals some major problems in our industry. Don't you think??

[Raymond E. Wand]

How can you have any credibility when memberships can be had for free? It lessens the value of membership for those that did pay. I don't see engineers and other professions giving away memberships. Who polices Nachi to ensure its in compliance with its own standards based on no bylaws?

[Nick Gromicko]

Ray, drink a cup of coffee and pay attention.

The MICB never gave away a single membership. I did. I paid for them with my own money. The door prizes at www.nachi.org/dailydoorprize.htm were not CMIs given away by the MICB. They were $375 checks given away by Nick Gromicko. The threads say "... donated by Nick Gromicko." Your friend Bob Francis recieved a $375 check drawn on my personal checking account.

Are you saying that I have no right to give away my money? Hate to give you the bad news but I live small (very small relative to my income) and the rest I give away. Nothing unusual for me. Again, are you saying there is something wrong with this?