Canadian government recognizes CMI. Thank you Roy Cooke!

[James H. Bushart]

NACHI includes my name in its many search engines with my word that I have met my annual CEU quota. NACHI does not have the manpower to account for the hundreds of thousands of individual CEUs gained (or not) by its membership each year.

When the plaintiff's attorney requires hard proof for my claims that I advertise (through NACHI's search engines) but that I am unable to provide, he gets to sue me for fraud and Nick simply shrugs, deletes my name from the membership roster (for I have violated NACHI's COE by lying about to NACHI about my qualifications) and moves on.

The affadavit is a tool that is also used by ASHI and NAHI. It is not unique to this association.

[Raymond E. Wand]

When the plaintiff's attorney requires hard proof that I am unable to provide, he gets to sue me for fraud and Nick simply shrugs, deletes my name from the membership roster (for I have violated NACHI's COE by lying about to NACHI about my qualifications) and moves on.

The affadavit is a tool that is also used by ASHI and NAHI. It is not unique to this association.

So once Nachi issues its designations it washes its hands and could care less. The public is also putting faith that your accrediting associatioin ensures members measure up, which as you allude it can't. At the very least Nachi should be conducting random audits as other associations do.

[Nick Gromicko]

We do random audits. Deleted a member on Tuesday. We also audit when we get a complaint from a consumer, a licensing agency, BBB, another member, etc. Deadwood project has been in operation for several years.

[Nick Gromicko]

We also allow every member to make him/herself invisible if they get behind. Making oneself invisible makes the inspector invisible on all 4,500 sites instantly.

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Ray, InterNACHI doesn't sign affidavits... its members do. InterNACHI sets up the speeding signs, it doesn't drive the cars.

What some people forget is that we "apply" for membership and are accepted/rejected based upon the information we provide.

People have been known to also lie on their resumes to get jobs with certain companies. An employer's only duty to his public is to fire the employee who lied when it comes to his knowledge. He does not have to go back and "refund" customers that the employee may have sold to.

Integrity cannot be "legislated". It is not "awarded" or "designated". It does not come from the institution to which one belongs. It is something that is brought to the institution by the people who join.

[Nick Gromicko]

We also provide each member with an online continuing education log. This log does not permit back editing of the dates. The IRS uses a weaker system (pencil written log book) as evidence for mileage deductions.

[Nick Gromicko]

We also auto log every course www.nachi.org/education.htm that a member completes. This is done by forcing the member to access the course with his/her membership username and membership password.

[James H. Bushart]

Lying about one's qualifications can also relieve one's insurance carrier of the duty to provide coverage.

Much rests upon the individual integrity of the home inspector.

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Brian, incorrectly writes:

How is the "3 years in business" requirement instant? 3 years is longer than the average life expectancy of an inspector!

How is the 1,000 inspections or CE hours easy?

You sound like Obama, great lines, nothing behind them.

Read www.certifiedmasterinspector.org again slower.

Nick:

Your quote that I was responding to was:
"In the inspection profession, which has an average life expectancy of less
than 3 years, only 1 in about 350 inspectors reach their 10th year."

I believe that you were talking of the HI industry in general and in my following post I was referring to the the profession, and not CMI's.

BTW, how many CE's can someone get by reading through all your online courses? Just curious.

[Nick Gromicko]

None. You only get credit if you take all the quizzes and exams too.

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by jmckenna1

If becoming a CMI is so easy, why do so few qualify, when you look at
the total number of inspectors in the entire industry.? It would seem that
everyone would qualify if it was easy.

When you look at the number of inspectors in the entire industry, it would seem that if not that many qualify we have a hell of a lot of newbies out there. Heaven help the buying public.

When you look at the entire industry including other associations and all the independents, remember the other associations and independents do not want to be want to be INACHI and most likely CMI certified. How many CMI's are not INACHI affiliated?

Why are some of the more knowledgeable INACHI senior inspectors on this board not applying for CMI which I assume they will have no problem receiving. Other INACHI members with consciences have made unflattering comments about CMI designation- that's where I get the "gimmick" term from.

[Nick Gromicko]

Brian, I'm glad to see that you confess that you developed your position on CMI from other's unflattering comments, rather than from the actual requirements: www.CertifiedMasterInspector.org

And yes, many CMIs are not affiliated with InterNACHI. Many are ASHI's top veterans. ASHI members seem to like the CMI designation as ASHI's 250 fee-paid inspections mark isn't that hard to reach. CMI is open to all for a one-time fee. No annual dues.

[Nick Gromicko]

CMI's Executive Director for instance, is a licensed Texas inspector (which means he did hundreds of CE classroom hours). He is also an ASHI member. And he doesn't have just 250 inspections under his belt (ASHI)... or 1,000 (CMI)... his team has performed over 22,000 inspections!

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by jbushart

NACHI includes my name in its many search engines with my word that I have met my annual CEU quota. NACHI does not have the manpower to account for the hundreds of thousands of individual CEUs gained (or not) by its membership each year.

Therein lies the part that becomes indefensible. People put their largest purchase in the hands of people who "swear" that they have done all these things!!! We all know many people will "swear" anything when it comes to money, power and sex.

When the plaintiff's attorney requires hard proof for my claims that I advertise (through NACHI's search engines) but that I am unable to provide, he gets to sue me for fraud and Nick simply shrugs, deletes my name from the membership roster (for I have violated NACHI's COE by lying about to NACHI about my qualifications) and moves on.

The affadavit is a tool that is also used by ASHI and NAHI. It is not unique to this association.

No, it's not unique to this org but its blanket use throughout the org for just about everything is and means that there are virtually no checks and balances in play. Can anyone tell me that if all renewing member CHI's are totally up to date?

I can tell you how tight our own chapter is. The Pres is fair but firm and wants a professional org run......he's been re-elected by acclamation 4 times now. He's an old college buddy but in early February pulled my name off the chapter website because he did not have my name on a required meeting (for me- need to attend 3 in any 12 month period) roll call sheet. In fact, I was there but got there an hour late late due having a meeting on a gov't contract I had.......so no record of Brian signing in, no Brian on the website (for about 3-4 weeks) since I had not met my obligations to the org...sweet and simple....friend or not!!! That may be the kind of management a professional org needs.

[Raymond E. Wand]

But where are the standards and the rules as to how CMI is set up and run via bylaws, elections, finances, meetings, et ceteras? It seems to me that you can do pretty much as you please with no rules or regulations other than the SOP and COE, which do not address members rights and obligations as part of the contractual scope of membership?