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Old 4/3/08, 7:49 PM
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Nick, how often have you explained to these people that CMI is not a trade association, but a designation. There are no dues, meetings or "by law" that affect "membership" since there are no members.

For a fee, those who meet certain criteria and agree to certain ethical conduct can buy the permission to use the "CMI" designation, correct?



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Old 4/3/08, 7:53 PM
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CMI is not an association, it is a professional designation, it has no members or obligations to them.

CMI need not verify that its designation holders are keeping up with their CEs as there are no annual CE requirements. Once you hit the 1,000 mark you can become a CMI forever and then can stop or continue taking CEs. CMIs requirements are a benchmark.



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Old 4/3/08, 7:57 PM
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That's what I thought. Where do people keep coming up with the nonsense? It's really not that complicated.



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Old 4/3/08, 8:00 PM
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Brian, I'm glad to see that you confess that you developed your position on CMI from other's unflattering comments, rather than from the actual requirements: www.CertifiedMasterInspector.org

The dissenters' views, especially those from inside this org, will in most cases allow a total picture to form.

And yes, many CMIs are not affiliated with InterNACHI.
From my previous post: "How many CMI's are not INACHI affiliated?" To quote an honest man: Facts, Nick, Facts!!

Many are ASHI's top veterans. ASHI members seem to like the CMI designation as ASHI's 250 fee-paid inspections mark isn't that hard to reach.
The opportunists will run for the easy stuff. If ASHI member's and their incomes are being threatened by 1,000's of newbies being pumped out here and elsewhere, they will take anything to be exalted again.

Was CMI set up by inside INACHI folks because they had to differentiate and protect themselves from the high numbers of new HI's being pumped out here. "Too many newbies in my backyard" , "not charging high enough" are making it hard for me!

CMI is open to all for a one-time fee. No annual dues.
So no regular income to run the org. How does it deal with administration, errant members, complaints, legal matters, etc? Someone is doing this for free?

I was surprised to see that there are only about 250-260 or so CMI's listed on the site. With what.......15,000+ inspectors out there, are only 250 worthy? Why aren't others rushing to the org? People have been doing this since the 1970's.....why don't they want to be here?
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Old 4/3/08, 8:01 PM
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There are only 18 CMI listed in Ontario.
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6 CMI's in Alberta.

2 in NB

1 in Yukon
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Old 4/3/08, 8:09 PM
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None. You only get credit if you take all the quizzes and exams too.


Oh! I see!! How many CE's can someone get by reading through all your online courses and taking/passing the quizzes/exams also. Are these all essentially open book exams?
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Old 4/3/08, 8:13 PM
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I think if you added them all up you could potentially earn 40 CE hours (4% of 1,000). Why?



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It appears that all the officers/directors/advisory board of CMI are all vendors?
http://www.certifiedmasterinspector.org/cmi/contact.htm
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So no regular income to run the org. How does it deal with administration, errant members, complaints, legal matters, etc? Someone is doing this for free?

I was surprised to see that there are only about 250-260 or so CMI's listed on the site. With what.......15,000+ inspectors out there, are only 250 worthy? Why aren't others rushing to the org? People have been doing this since the 1970's.....why don't they want to be here?
Why don't all the consumers in your area hire you? Is that considered evidence that there
is something wrong with you, if they don't? No.

CMI is not a popularity contest, it is an educational/experience designation for those who
qualify and apply. No more, no less.



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Old 4/3/08, 8:28 PM
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It appears that all the officers/directors/advisory board of CMI are all vendors?
http://www.certifiedmasterinspector.org/cmi/contact.htm
Not all.

Are you against earning an income for a living?

None of them are out selling CMI for profit anyway, and what they do in other areas
if none of my business. They all seem to have reputations of successful and honest
business people. What is wrong with any of that? Why do you attack people that
have done you no wrong? Who are you anyway? Do you have a life to live or
have you accomplished anything in life?



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No I am not against earning a living, but then again I am cautious not to appear to be in a conflict of interest, either.
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Why don't all the consumers in your area hire you? Is that considered evidence that there
is something wrong with you, if they don't? No.

CMI is not a popularity contest, it is an educational/experience designation for those who
qualify and apply. No more, no less.

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Why don't all the consumers in your area hire you?
Hey Brian,
Let's see your Mr. Know-It-All credentials.
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Old 4/3/08, 8:45 PM
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No I am not against earning a living, but then again I am cautious not to appear to be in a conflict of interest, either.
Who on the CMI board has a conflict of interest? Proof?



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Wheres the proof this is a creditable operation?
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