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----- Original Message ----- Nick Gromicko, CMI Founder World's biggest, best inspection association "Planet InterNACHI... resistance is futile" |
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rwand1 is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
If they want Tarion fixed why not get rid of the BOD, and reformulate its policies. A ombudsman only fights for those that have been wronged, he can't change the policies and legislation which have led to the ineffectiveness in my opinion.
Seems fruitless when we have just been provided in another thread about the licencing tribunal ruling in favour of the homeowner. |
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yourself, and pass on. ================================================== ====== Good morning, Last week, I wrote to you about the possibility of Minister Gerry Phillips extending the Ombudsman's mandate to include Tarion. Many Ontarians have now written to the Minister supporting this change, and copied CPBH in their correspondence. But we need more people to write if we are to convince the Minister to take action to better protect consumers. We are very much hoping that you will write to the Minister - even if you have not been impacted personally. The purchase of a home is the largest purchase most consumers make, and there is currently inadequate consumer protection. This opportunity that the Minister is considering provides an important means to better protect Ontario consumers. Purchasers at all stages of life -- many young people who purchased their first home, through to many seniors on a fixed income who invested their life savings in a newly built home -- have recently found that they did not have adequate consumer protection for their newly built home, and they suffered as a result. You may be interested to know that a prominent Toronto lawyer and Toronto Star journalist, Bob Aaron, wrote in his column today: "Buyers of new homes in Ontario will benefit considerably if minister Gerry Phillips expands the ombudsman's mandate to include oversight of the Tarion warranty corporation. In my view, he can't do it soon enough." The complete column from today's Toronto Star is below. (You will note that Bob Aaron also references the work of CPBH in today's column!) With a provincial election scheduled for October 2007, the Minister will need to move quickly to make this important change before the election. The more letters/emails that the Minister receives supporting this change, the greater the probability of change. If you agree that the Ombudsman should have responsibility for Tarion, please write to Minister Phillips NOW and copy CPBH and the Ombudsman. The contact information is below. CPBH realizes you are busy, but if you could take just a moment to write a quick e-mail or letter, it would be so appreciated -- and would have an impact. The following is an example of what one person wrote: "Minister Phillips, I understand you are considering having the mandate of the Ombudsman of Ontario extended to include Tarion. I strongly support this move." Many have worked hard to get this initiative to this point, but we need to continue the momentum, which is why we are writing to you. Thank you for considering this request. Regards, Karen -- Karen Somerville Canadians for Properly Built Homes (CPBH) Our Vision: Healthy, safe, durable, energy efficient residential housing for Canadians. www.canadiansforproperlybuilthomes.com ================================================== ======================== Contact information: By e-mail: Minister Gerry Phillips: gphillips.mpp@liberal.ola.org Canadians for Properly Built Homes: info@canadiansforproperlybuilthomes.com Ombudsman Ontario: info@ombudsman.on.ca By Canada Post: Minister Gerry Phillips Ministry of Government Services 99 Wellesley Street West Room 4320, Whitney Block Toronto, ON, M7A 1W3 ======================================= Canadians for Properly Built Homes PO Box 11032, Stn. H, 3659 Richmond Rd. Ottawa, ON, K2H 7T8 ======================================== Ombudsman Ontario Bell Trinity Square, 483 Bay Street 10th Floor, South Tower Toronto, ON M5G 2C9 ================================================== ================== Warranty does not eliminate client's rights Primary purpose of Tarion is to administer Ontario New Home Warranties Plan February 17, 2007 Bob Aaron, The Toronto Star In the summer of 1999, Brian Griffin bought a new house to be built by T & R Brown Construction Ltd. in the City of Kawartha Lakes. In March and August of the following year after taking possession, Griffin became unhappy with defects in the house and served notice on what is now the Tarion warranty program of a breach of warranty under the legislation. A conciliation was conducted at the house in August, 2000 and some repairs were made. The warranty program did several re-inspections and then issued a formal report to the owner. Griffin was still not satisfied and filed a further claim listing 33 separate complaints. After the program responded to the complaints, Griffin launched a formal appeal of the decision. The Licence Appeal Tribunal scheduled five days for hearing the appeal, but a few days before the hearing, Griffin abandoned it and decided to sue the builder and the City of Kawartha Lakes instead. In November, 2006, Brown and the city asked the court to terminate Griffin's lawsuit as "frivolous and vexatious." They argued that Griffin could not sue because he was obliged to accept the decision of the warranty program in place of any right to collect damages in a civil court. Section 17 of the Ontario New Home Warranties Plan Act says that every contract to buy a new home is deemed to contain an agreement to submit future differences to arbitration. At first blush, it looks like this provision eliminates the right of any homeowner to sue under the terms of the contract. At the court hearing on the application to kill the litigation, Griffin's counsel, William F. Kelly, argued that his client's rights under the contract with the builder are not eliminated by the provisions of the warranty program legislation, which is designed to protect the rights of new homebuyers and not truncate them. Justice Robert A. Clark dismissed the application to toss out Griffin's case without a trial. His view was that the legislation contains no express prohibition against a lawsuit. As a result, he ruled, the jurisdiction of the Licence Appeal Tribunal to decide warranty appeals exists alongside that of the courts, and a homeowner can choose which route to take. The builder and the city argued that the issue of whether the builder had breached any of the statutory warranties had already been decided by the warranty program, and it would be improper for the owner to litigate the issue all over again in a courtroom. Justice Clark dismissed this argument as well. Notices of appeal have been filed by Brown and the city. In this column last week, I quoted from a decision of the Ontario Divisional Court, which ruled last year that the law governing the Tarion program is "consumer protection legislation and should be given broad and liberal interpretation." This ruling, in the Keith Markey case, was a bold step forward since neither the Ontario New Home Warranties Plan Act nor the regulations passed under it contain any specific statement to that effect. The legislation itself simply states that the primary purpose of the Tarion Warranty Corp. is to administer the Ontario New Home Warranties Plan. Following the ruling of the Divisional Court in the Markey case, everything that Tarion does will now have to be re-examined in light of Tarion's clarified mandate to protect consumers. Tarion is an independent, self-governing, arm's-length organization created by the Ontario government. Its annual report states: "Tarion's mandate is unique in Canada. No other province or territory so completely transfers responsibility and liability for management of the home building industry to an independent organization." Soon that mandate may be subject to further oversight – this time by the Ombudsman of Ontario. Karen Somerville is president of Canadians For Properly Built Homes (CPBH), an Ottawa-based group that speaks for homeowners across the country. Last month, Government Services Minister Gerry Phillips advised Somerville that he is considering having the mandate of the ombudsman extended to include the Tarion warranty program. That would certainly be good news for people like Brian Griffin and other buyers of new homes and condominiums in Ontario. Having the ombudsman investigate a case would no doubt be faster and cheaper than pursuing a claim for defects in the province's courtrooms – or even before the Licence Appeal Tribunal. Somerville told me that many homeowners have advised CPBH that the option of appealing Tarion's decisions to the Licence Appeal Tribunal (LAT) is not one that they are interested in pursuing – for a number of reasons. These reasons include: the relatively low success rates of those who have taken their cases to the LAT, and the need to retain the services of a lawyer (with no guarantee of success), given that the builder and Tarion are usually represented by a lawyer at the LAT. My guess is Brian Griffin chose to abandon the tribunal appeal because he would have had to pay his lawyer for a five-day hearing, and might not be any further ahead at the end of it. In recent months, Ontario ombudsman André Marin began investigations into the Ontario Lottery and Gaming Corp., the Municipal Property Assessment Corp., and the denial of certain out-of-country benefits by the Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care. Buyers of new homes in Ontario will benefit considerably if minister Gerry Phillips expands the ombudsman's mandate to include oversight of the Tarion warranty corporation. In my view, he can't do it soon enough. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bob Aaron is a Toronto real estate lawyer. He can be reached by email at bob@aaron.ca, phone 416-364-9366 or fax 416-364-3818. Chuck Crooker I.M.M., Canadian Home Inspectorhttp://www.crookerhancox.com "Not just an inspection, an Education!!!"
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dcook1 is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
Come on everyone,,, we know Tarion will definetly help the average Canadian home buyer that has a really bd house. Just go directly to the president of Tarion, Aubrey Leblanc and he will address the situation.
Oh never mind, he now has a plum crony appointment at OAHI. Aww crappp,,, just when we thought it would go smoothly |
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rwand1 is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
On that note they didn't even tender the job. Actually I am surprised they got him for the money they did.
To add insult to injury now they have proposed a Special Assessment to pay for his position. OAHI has raised membership fees, charges for multiple web listings, pays for a CAFE monitor that is a puppet of the regime that does absolutely nothing. They want a special assessment for advertising, they want another special assessment for... Where has the money gone that members have been putting in all these years gone? Where has my money gone? I would attend the AGM but with the number of threats and intimidation tried, I would be sure to take a plain clothes OPP officer with me to ensure my safety. I would really love to ask some very embarrassing questions of the BOD, BOE, Admissions Review and the PR Committee and the DPPC. |
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