Certified Home Inspector or CHI Designation

[Claude Lawrenson]

Thanks for the votes of confidence. I thought I was trying be helpful. So much for that! You guys have all the answers. I will bow out of the discussion and watch from the sidelines.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by clawrenson

Thanks for the votes of confidence. I thought I was trying be helpful. So much for that! You guys have all the answers. I will bow out of the discussion and watch from the sidelines.

Sorry Claude
If we have all the answers it is not because you gave them to us .
You have the chance to be a big help to the Canadian Home inspection industry but do little
You choose to not answer simple questions , ignore ,or give a long say nothing reply.
You belittle NACHI and complain about it members posts.
You do nothing about posts made by your buddies and nothing about the wrong doing of our Canadian associations .
As Your Buddy Bill says .
Please don't let the door hit your ***** on the way out .

The more I hear,
the more I see!
NACHI is the one for me !
Roy Cooke R.H.I. Royshomeinspection.com
A HAPPY NACHI MEMBER,... More find this out ever day!

Remember Whistler http://www.nachi.org/forum/f48/lets-not-forget-whistler-4935/

[Claude Lawrenson]

Roy - respectfully - what posts are you specifically referring to. It seems that if you felt Bill or someone else made one in the past 6 months, respecting you personally and emailed to me - I certainly am not aware of it!

So I state its a bit presumptive, and you are seemingly dwelling on old news. It seems to get repeated time and time again.

Certainly you may "think" you have all the answers. I would tend to feel that "we" can learn to help each other if we learned to remain neutral about comments rather than taking only one side. Again and respectfully that applies both ways.

So lets test the waters:

How many CAHPI or NACHI members have failed the TIPR?

How many have been tested?

How many are in the pilot?

Why was the percentage of NACHI members higher in the pilot?

Why have some NACHI members decided to stay in the pilot - while others have decided to leave?

What was the purpose of the Winnipeg wind-up?

Why do some feel that Cam's statement seemed to slam NACHI - when perhaps like many articles or pieces of information - there usually taken out of context? I did not see specific reference to NACHI - did you?

Do you believe everything written in the news, newsletters, or even posted here?

How about the issue of Alrek and the provincial warranties? Are some parts different? What percentage must be changed to make it not someone else's work?

Is CAHPI perfect - no.

Is NACHI perfect - no.

Was there provincial government reps looking at the National Certification Model - could licensing be near?

Is there a potential common ground between the 2 groups? Perhaps - but it seems they are both troubled in finding that common ground. More so some have layed the ground work on both sides with a lot a bumps in that road.

Hopefully you get my point. We can work and openly listen to one another - or you can continue your same old line too! Certainly I do not claim to have all the answers - and know I am not perfect. You need to start on common ground - not by litany of presumptions, or base today on what we experienced yesterday. Certainly learn from the past - but welcome the future with an open mind.

See I can talk about things in general without bashing NACHI - so please show me where I have done so.

"Respectfully submitted"
Claude

[rwand1]

Larry

This maybe of interest re RHI.
http://www.cahpi-alberta.com/courses.asp

[rwand1]

Also,

http://bcipi.asttbc.org/

http://bcipi.asttbc.org/about.html

Also BCIPI uses Certified "HOUSE" Inspector. Nachi's is Certified "HOME" Inspector, as in National Assoc. Of Home Inspectors (NACHI).

[rwand1]

Also no mention of any alignment of ASTTBC/BCIPI with CAHPI, let alone any reference to CAHPI's high standards re SOP/COE. They seem to want to seperate themselves from CAHPI BC. So much for National Certification in BC.

[rwand1]

http://www2.asttbc.org/pub/051118edr.pdf

CAHPI(BC) RELATIONS. BCIPI President Gerry Goumans and I wrote to CAHPI(BC) to express a sincere interest in working TOGETHER to enhance the professional regulation of all house and property
inspectors. (See attachment 2- 7)

Sorry couldn't find attachment 2-7.

[rwand1]

Home inspection standards in the works
http://www.lestwarog.com/newsArticle-1297.html

Well now that I start searching I guess I have to reformulate my earlier post. So here it goes....

Gee it sure looks like CAHPI is seeking a working relationship with CAHPI-BC. Isn't that nice?

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by rwand1

Home inspection standards in the works
http://www.lestwarog.com/newsArticle-1297.html

Well now that I start searching I guess I have to reformulate my earlier post. So here it goes....

Gee it sure looks like CAHPI is seeking a working relationship with CAHPI-BC. Isn't that nice?

Great now if they will only get together with NACHI things could be looking up .

Roy Cooke sr. Royshomeinspection.com
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[rwand1]

Claude,

You asked,
Why do some feel that Cam's statement seemed to slam NACHI - when perhaps like many articles or pieces of information - there usually taken out of context? I did not see specific reference to NACHI - did you?

Who did you think Cam was referring to; ASHI? I don't think so, they do not have 500 Canadian members. NACHI sure fits the bill in his description as they have close to 500 inspectors. Many of them well qualified, just like me, you, Larry, Roy, Rob, et al. He certainly wasn't referring to the other 3500 inspectors supposedly practicing out there, often referenced as the mysterious 5000.

[Claude Lawrenson]

For what its worth - it may be a possibility - but I am not defending him or OAHI. Some feel otherwise, and to his credit, no name was specifically given. Certainly others will readily fill in a name to suit.

Witnesses to his "speech" have indicated to me that what was published and what was stated are taken entirely out of context.

Certainly I agree and have never doubted those experienced, educated and time-tested through field experience practitioners as key people within NACHI, and truly any other home inspection association, and even those that I know that choose to stay away from any association.

[rwand1]

Well, given that this same person has been heard by others mistating facts about CREA, et cetera it kinda fits the bill. This is the same person who has taken it upon himself to be judge, jury and executioner in his neck of the woods against his competitors or people he just feels need to be dealt with, cause he does not like them. And he is going to be an Examiner in Ontario? I think this person is on an ego trip and has no business examining anything let alone whether others are competent.

Also please note Mr. Lloyds stupid comments, strange how this person is also a franchisor and also now on the CAHPI board, seems he has displayed his biases too. I guess Mr. Lloyd has something in common with Carson Dunlop, Inspection Support Services. Seems CAHPI is a business opportunity for those wishing to exploit business opportunities.

Although a number of the membership have bought into a mail order association who think that they can use the designation, let me assure you that they do not have the right to use it. It does not add credibility to you, in fact as the RHI designation is becoming more recognized the use of other designations is discrediting you and may damage your business.

To set the record straight Mr. Lloyd, you should not be making erroneous statements, and you seem to be exhibiting a number of biases from your pulpit. I am still waiting months for you to be able to send a OAHI letter of reply to my 3 complaints that they have been accepted and are being dealt with. So far all I have heard about repeatedly is that the DPPC is reformulated. That was months ago. Well maybe Mr. Lloyd along with Mr. Allen should not be in his positions either he seems to be overstepping the confines of the by-law.

Now before anyone thinks that management in OAHI is competent to do anything and I would suggest to you they are not competent to oversee anything including the national, let alone keeping their own houses in order. No justice, no action, no replies, no due process is no assurance of anything.

DENIAL (NILE) IS NOT A RIVER IN EGYPT

[rwand1]

Larry

It would seem that Nachi uses Certified Home Inspector while ASTTBC/BCIPI uses Certified House Inspector. I think you should reply to ASTTBC and point that difference out to them. I don't think they have a leg to stand on considering the difference.