Certified Master Inspector

[Claude Lawrenson]

From my general understanding OAHI and all Equivalency bodies would have to comply - that includes delivery of TIPR's.

Mentoring is optional by the provincial bodies. A number of private vendors and training providers are offering mentoring. A mentor would be required to sign a stat dec - indicating that the inspector has fulfilled the minimum of 50 hours of mentoring.

[Claude Lawrenson]

Vern - I felt Raymond's TIPR suggestion was a good one towards offering another area of measuring performance competency. Without it - it leaves a huge gap in the area of rigor and credibility from a performance measurement standard.

Certainly it does not equate to a guarantee that the inspector always performs to the same standard. It is a means to assure and audit compliance with the standards of practice, and measure an inspectors accuracy and effectiveness in finding significant defects and hopefully accurately reporting them.

I do not see where the CMI program accomplishes that task.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by clawrenson

Vern - I felt Raymond's TIPR suggestion was a good one towards offering another area of measuring performance competency. Without it - it leaves a huge gap in the area of rigor and credibility from a performance measurement standard.

Certainly it does not equate to a guarantee that the inspector always performs to the same standard. It is a means to assure and audit compliance with the standards of practice, and measure an inspectors accuracy and effectiveness in finding significant defects and hopefully accurately reporting them.

I do not see where the CMI program accomplishes that task.

Claude I wonder can you tell us of one active association that has any TIPR in the home inspection industry.
I am not trying to say it would or would not be a good idea.
It does not seem to have happened in the past so I wonder why it should be tried now.
I can see a lot of very unneccesary expense and costing many a lot of money for no reason.

............. Cookie

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by clawrenson

From my general understanding OAHI and all Equivalency bodies would have to comply - that includes delivery of TIPR's.

Mentoring is optional by the provincial bodies. A number of private vendors and training providers are offering mentoring. A mentor would be required to sign a stat dec - indicating that the inspector has fulfilled the minimum of 50 hours of mentoring.

What ????? are we now talking about the National Certification.
This is at this time just a lot of ideas from a self appointed few .
Not even active yet and I expect more changes could be announced before it is even launched if it does get launched.

................. Cookie

[Claude Lawrenson]

Yes, it is used in certain chapters of ASHI. At one time it was part of a mandatory process. I have had several experiences with the program and process. Much of the credit for TIPR goes to ASHI and the Great Lakes Chapter, for hosting these events on a periodic base.

I have studied the process and revised and tweaked it to suit the needs of inspectors for the NC process in Canada.

On the issue of mentoring "Humber" college has already run the first group of mentored inspectors through the home inspection program. There are a number of others already doing such as such as Charters and his group, as well as other training providers.

The standards bar is being arised, like it or not!

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by clawrenson

Yes, it is used in certain chapters of ASHI. At one time it was part of a mandatory process. I have had several experiences with the program and process. Much of the credit for TIPR goes to ASHI and the Great Lakes Chapter, for hosting these events on a periodic base.

I have studied the process and revised and tweaked it to suit the needs of inspectors for the NC process in Canada.

On the issue of mentoring "Humber" college has already run the first group of mentored inspectors through the home inspection program. There are a number of others already doing such as such as Charters and his group, as well as other training providers.

The standards bar is being arised, like it or not!

OH! I like the standards to be raised ,I think it is a great idea .
I would love this to be done by a legitimate association not some self appointed group who gives out very little information.
Past records from many in this group show they are out for them selves and not the Home inspection industry.
Why should I and others do as they say with out them being truthfull and honerable.
Can you tell me why we should believe what they say and do.

......... Cookie

[Henry Valenzano, CMI]

Originally Posted by rwand1

Heres a suggestion ...
CMI in Canada should have a TIPR component. What do you think? Is this viable? Should CMI in Canada be modelled after the National? That would level the playing field in my opinion.

As far as i know CMI is one there is no separation for Canada or USA. Why would CMI want to level the playing field. We want to raise the bar and have CMI lead the way. No matter what country you are in.

[Claude Lawrenson]

You keep mentioning self-appointed group - is that the case for the CMI, or the elected body of NACHI? You opened that can of worms - now - true or not true?

I respect the work and visionaries in creating the CMI, however, many have already questioned some of its workings. I am not here to degrade it - but your continual shots across the bow in your endeavour to defame CAHPI, OAHI and the NCA - is nothing but cheap shots, because those that judge - may find the tables turned by the same details of fact.

Again, I ask this respectfully - knowing you already know the answer to that question. So be careful when we talk about self-appointments. What's good for the goose - is good for the gander - n'est pas?

I say - please give it a rest! Your "professionalism" is showing.

[James H. Bushart]

You CMIs need to stop playing around and get them fees up to around $600 per. Let's go, man.

[rwand1]

Why would CMI want to level the playing field. We want to raise the bar and have CMI lead the way. No matter what country you are in.

Why? Because it would increase the assurance to the public that CMI is in fact the best.

[rwand1]

James

Thats a pipe dream. Sure its great to think cmi is worth the price, but you would be pricing yourself out of the market.

[Henry Valenzano, CMI]

Originally Posted by jbushart

You CMIs need to stop playing around and get them fees up to around $600 per. Let's go, man.

The requirements are going up slowly. As of today you are required to have at least 3 years in business as a home inspector.

[rwand1]

Henry thats great.

Call it mentoring or Test Inspection Peer Review, but I think it would be very beneficial for the program in the long run at some point in the future.

[rwand1]

Hey Claude

Now who would really want to be reviewed by a person like Carl Inglis? I know many who would not. Given his dismal record of Report Reviewer no one has anything to fear but Carls ignorance and self importance.

[Henry Valenzano, CMI]

Originally Posted by rwand1

Henry thats great.

Call it mentoring or Test Inspection Peer Review, but I think it would be very beneficial for the program in the long run at some point in the future.

I agree and would like more requirements but i also think we have to grow slowly. The previous Prez was not very good and left a bad taste in the industry. The new prez did more for CMI in a week and i think there is more to cone.