Certified Master Inspector

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by rcooke

James you have a strange way of trying to influence people .
But I still like much of what you do .
..... Cookie

The CMI designation was created for the solitary purpose of justifying an increase fee. Period. Zip. That's it.

This happy horse***** of "helping newer inspectors" and the rest is unnecessary and is wrong. Using the CMI designation as a means of qualifying for the $275 inspection in place of anyone else doing the $275 inspection is nonsense.

I mean it. I'm starting to really be upset by the crap I am reading in some of these CMI threads.

You guys need to get on with the business of raising your fees and convincing the public of the value of this experience and education....not trying to convince other home inspectors.

[Henry Valenzano, CMI]

Originally Posted by jbushart

The CMI designation was created for the solitary purpose of justifying an increase fee. Period. Zip. That's it.

This happy horse***** of "helping newer inspectors" and the rest is unnecessary and is wrong. Using the CMI designation as a means of qualifying for the $275 inspection in place of anyone else doing the $275 inspection is nonsense.

I mean it. I'm starting to really be upset by the crap I am reading in some of these CMI threads.

You guys need to get on with the business of raising your fees and convincing the public of the value of this experience and education....not trying to convince other home inspectors.

This is part of the COE I think A sayes it best. Nothing about fees here

• • 2. Duty to the Profession and to other Certified Master Inspectors®

a. The Certified Master Inspector® will strive to improve the Inspection Industry by sharing his/her lessons and/or experiences for the benefit of all. This does not preclude the Certified Master Inspector® from copyrighting or marketing his/her expertise to other inspectors or the public in any manner permitted by law.
b. The Certified Master Inspector® shall assist in disseminating and publicizing the benefits of hiring Certified Master Inspectors®.
c. The Certified Master Inspector® will not engage in any act or practice that could be deemed damaging, seditious or destructive to fellow Certified Master Inspectors®.
d. The Certified Master Inspector® will dress professionally when acting in the capacity of his/her profession.

[James H. Bushart]

Well, then, Lewis Capaul is going to need some help in convincing people that CMIs cannot give anyone a better inspection than anyone else in the normal price range.

I plan to replace Lewis and lead the fight, myself.

You guys are not going to get any support if all you plan to do is tout yourself as something "special" and compete in this market for a $275 inspection.

It ain't gonna happen, and you can take that to the bank.

[Henry Valenzano, CMI]

Originally Posted by jbushart

Well, then, Lewis Capaul is going to need some help in convincing people that CMIs cannot give anyone a better inspection than anyone else in the normal price range.

I plan to replace Lewis and lead the fight, myself.

You guys are not going to get any support if all you plan to do is tout yourself as something "special" and compete in this market for a $275 inspection.

It ain't gonna happen, and you can take that to the bank.

I never said i wasant raising my prices mine are the highest in southern colorado. for a 1500 sf home i get 395.00 my prices have been up there for 2 years for this area that is high. that 275 is just a 1 hr walk through and goes up from there

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by hvalenzano

The requirements are going up slowly. As of today you are required to have at least 3 years in business as a home inspector.

3 year?????? This is the biggest problem (and I'm being gracious here) with the CMI program.......no, wait........or is it the no testing and third party verification aspect? I haven't even looked at the requirements yet because the little I hear scares the ...... out of me and I don't want to be part of more "web fiction".

With 23+ years experience in assessing/inspecting homes, worked in 4 different building trades, ran a multifaceted small construction company, have lectured and taught many goups in housing issues, lectured at a university for 2 terms (building science), expert witness in court and on and on........ I think I just may have most of the requirements that would allow me to call myself a master but I wouldn't under the current CMI program.

[Marcel R. Cyr]

Originally Posted by Brian A. MacNeish

3 year?????? This is the biggest problem (and I'm being gracious here) with the CMI program.......no, wait........or is it the no testing and third party verification aspect? I haven't even looked at the requirements yet because the little I hear scares the ...... out of me and I don't want to be part of more "web fiction".

With 23+ years experience in assessing/inspecting homes, worked in 4 different building trades, ran a multifaceted small construction company, have lectured and taught many goups in housing issues, lectured at a university for 2 terms (building science), expert witness in court and on and on........ I think I just may have most of the requirements that would allow me to call myself a master but I wouldn't under the current CMI program.

Brian, I feel the same way as you do, I guess due the fact that I have been in Construction for over 40 years, a welder by 15 years old, a Union Carpenter in Florida at 20 years old and built Commercial School of $1,000,000 at 24 years old in 1977, with over 200 hrs of continued education and 18 Months of Federal Government Inspector for General Services Administration in 1985, and yet, I also do not meet the qualifications stated for the CMI.

Go figure.

Marcel

[rwand1]

So Brian do you feel the same way about National Certification as you do CMI.

Speaking for myself I feel the same way about National Certification as you do with CMI.

Licencing in my book trumps all. Thats why I haven't been fully sold on CMI or NC yet.

I have a different background than you or Marcel, but feel I am qualified to be be CMI or Nationally Cert.

[dharris]

OK guys.
Your making me nervous with talk about raising the cmi bar above what it is now, and raising the cmi fee.
I'm ready to send my ck.
From what I understand I make it out to the cmi account.

Just a couple questions before I lick the stamp.
Who controls this account?
Where do my $s go, and who's held accountable for that?

[Henry Valenzano, CMI]

Originally Posted by dharris

OK guys.
Your making me nervous with talk about raising the cmi bar above what it is now, and raising the cmi fee.
I'm ready to send my ck.
From what I understand I make it out to the cmi account.

Just a couple questions before I lick the stamp.
Who controls this account?
Where do my $s go, and who's held accountable for that?

http://www.certifiedmasterinspector.com/ is where you get the application and Nick is in charge and John is the Prez.To day was the cutoff for under 3 years experience plus the other requirements.

[Henry Valenzano, CMI]

Well be glad to have you aboard.

[Richard L. Bennett]

Henry

Who the "H" changed the requirements to 3 year???????

You started out with my support and I sort of agree with the requirement but not how it was done

Are you God???

Lets get the program on track and find out who does the background checks, cashes the checks, does something with the $$, and does the paper work with the IRS

I am sure that you are getting OUR shi11 in order but like mike your are in the spot light

Good luck and call on any of us if you need help

rlb

[Henry Valenzano, CMI]

Originally Posted by rbennett

Henry

Who the "H" changed the requirements to 3 year???????

You started out with my support and I sort of agree with the requirement but not how it was done

Are you God???

Lets get the program on track and find out who does the background checks, cashes the checks, does something with the $$, and does the paper work with the IRS

I am sure that you are getting OUR shi11 in order but like mike your are in the spot light

Good luck and call on any of us if you need help

rlb

John posted that about a week ago. I have no say so in the matter

[Henry Valenzano, CMI]

Nick is the one that does the back ground and gets the checks. I just run the MB

[Henry Valenzano, CMI]

They haven't changed the site to reflect the 3 years so you might sneak by.

[dharris]

Originally Posted by hvalenzano

http://www.certifiedmasterinspector.com/ is where you get the application and Nick is in charge and John is the Prez.To day was the cutoff for under 3 years experience plus the other requirements.

3 yrs no problem.. got almost 6 with over 2,000 inspections, plus 4-500 Hr. CE, all can be verified..FBI ck fall of 2002.

Ahhh... so I pay Nick.. if there are over 200 cmi's now that equals apx
$50-70,000 collected to date.
To date I have not seen any marketing other than on this BB of this special designation...and Nick is going to spend my dollars where?

What a min. I thought the cmi was separate from nachi, isn't nick nachi?

Now before you all give me crap about posting here, the cmi board is only open to nachi members that payed nick 289.
Do's that mean I have to pay nick 289.00 and 375.00 in order to use the cmi board??