CHI use outside of British Columbia

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by rwand1

Didn't want anyone to think I am a liar. Abuse of power, abuse of non existant by-laws, due process.

Govern youself accordingly OAHI.

Raymond Wand RHI, CHI, CFIHI, ASHI

They where desperate then and they are still desperate . They have big problems , Directors who do not follow the rules and now they have spent too much money .
It looks like they are in trouble and are scrambling to try and plug the holes in the sinking ship .
NACHI does so much more for their members and the cost is considerably less .
Since leaving OAHI/CAHPI my business has gone up every year.
Roy Cooke

[Jason1]

Originally Posted by rwand1

Didn't want anyone to think I am a liar. Abuse of power, abuse of non existant by-laws, due process.

Govern youself accordingly OAHI.

Raymond Wand RHI, CHI, CFIHI, ASHI

How hard did you laugh when you received that?

[rwand1]

I didn't find it amusing. I found it disturbing, considering it was vexatious, bias, intimidating. These folks think they have unlimited power, and will try and use any and all means to thwart freedom of association, and to try and rid those who they feel do not meet their visions of professionalism.

I recently rec'd a registered letter dismissing the seven complaints they had filed against me for conduct unbecoming, misconduct and statements they say I made on this forum. They also returned my $300 cheque for an Appeal I filed to earlier findings. It seems they wish to avoid further embarrassment and having dirt come out in a Appeal hearing. Besides there is ample evidence due to delays and other statements made by OAHi executives that would would challenge the assurance of a fair hearing.

What is also troubling is in the Registered letter they dismissed the complaint in regards to inspecting while retired which they say was based on circumstantial evidence and hearsay, but then in the same paragraph say that there is "overwhelming circumstantial evidence" to suggest I am inspecting while retired! Well one is either guilty or innocent not somewhere in between. The by-laws once again do not support their stance as to practicing whilst retired. Yet here they are on record as suggesting I am doing that! I also belong to three other HI associations!

Further I renewed after two years of being retired, only to be told by the BOE/Admissions review that until my Discipline matters and professional practice issues were dealt with would they "consider" my upgrade, thus denying my right to vote this weekend at their AGM and to run for office.
That is a breach of the by-laws and power tripping on the part of parties who do not have that authority as per the by-laws. Of concern is that there was no due process and was found to be guilty having no evidence to support their reasoning. NOTHING! All based on someones ego and power tripping and backed up by the committee members. This is exactly what they did to Roy Cook only to be found in breach of the by-laws! They are slow learners and now they have put themselves in a very precarious position legally which I intend to persue. I have already asked if they have Directors and Officers Liability insurance because they are going to need it.
I think they are getting bad legal advice or they are not telling the association lawyer what is going on but I suspect otherwise. Several people are going to find out just how much I value my rights.

This is a body that wants to dominate the inspection industry in Ontario and possibly licencing. Given the issues do you really think it will be an open and fair process to outsiders?

There are many former members who have been given the short shrift in Oahi who were intimidatate and their rights trampled on, all under the guise of creating a master race.

I am proud to stand up for my rights, and even though its been a lonely haul, I will continue because I have yet to be proven wrong. Justice will triumph over lies, deciet and abuse of power.

If anyone else believes they have been treated wrongly I would encourage you to stand up and be counted, otherwise you will become a victim.

Jason, aren't you glad you asked?

There are other parties on this forum who are OAHI members who are being treated in the same unprofessional manner because they are also members of Nachi.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by rwand1

I didn't find it amusing. I found it disturbing, considering it was vexatious, bias, intimidating. These folks think they have unlimited power, and will try and use any and all means to thwart freedom of association, and to try and rid those who they feel do not meet their visions of professionalism.

I think they are getting bad legal advice or they are not telling the association lawyer what is going on but I suspect otherwise. Several people are going to find out just how much I value my rights.

This is a body that wants to dominate the inspection industry in Ontario and possibly licencing. Given the issues do you really think it will be an open and fair process to outsiders?

I am proud to stand up for my rights, and even though its been a lonely haul, I will continue because I have yet to be proven wrong. Justice will triumph over lies, deciet and abuse of power.

If anyone else believes they have been treated wrongly I would encourage you to stand up and be counted, otherwise you will become a victim.

Jason, aren't you glad you asked?

There are other parties on this forum who are OAHI members who are being treated in the same unprofessional manner because they are also members of Nachi.

Thanks Ray for your post this is almost exactly what happened with me except I Had to go through the appeal process and they spent about $35,000:00 trying to defeat me when won five in my favor and zero in OAHIs .
Then I sued them for my out of pocket expenses and they settled out of court . I got $1,000:00 .
They also sent me my certificate and tried to tell me I needed to do more after it was proven that more then one BOD had lied .
Get them on the Stand where they must tell the truth and how things do change .
Till this Day some still post that I was wrong and had cheated .
One post's regularly on this BB .
He is not a NACHI member .
Glad for you Ray great to see justice has again been served .
Unfortunately many of these people now feel they should control the National Certification .
I do not think the fox should be in charge of the Hen house .
Roy Cooke
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[James Koong]

CHI designation did not have any court order to stop using by any Association yet ?
Please give a sample that has been ordered by court that who owns the right?

[rwand1]

James

Outside of BC CHI is not going to be challenged by ASTTBC. ASTTBC is only going to defend the use in BC.

What is more of a concern is the fact that OAHI knew the use of CHI would not be persued by ASTTBC outside of BC and knowingly sent a letter to ASTTBC reporting me for something OAHI had no jurisdiction or power to do. Clearly this was done to intimidate me and to show how OAHI would deal with whistle blowers or people they felt threatened by. When I queried OAHI asking to see the agreement they had with ASTTBC and or how the by-laws supported OAHI position guess what? OAHI did not answer my query. Seems they like to throw their weight around and then hide from being able to establish or prove they have the power. Scary indeed that this is tolerated by a body that likes to see itself as the voice of the Inspection industry in Ontario.

Even more of a concern is the DPPC Chair of OAHI and VP knowingly acted with bias intent. Of concern also is that this same person is on the CAHPI BOD representing Ontario. What does that instill? Certainly it doesn't instill confidence; at least in Ontario fair treatment and due process is not to be had thats what it instills!

[Nick Gromicko]

For one of my birthdays a couple years ago Chris Morrell bought me the wallet. He knew that Pulp Fiction was my favorite move. I've carried it every day ever since.

[rwand1]

What; the pulp or the fiction? I think you must mean the fiction as the pulp would be pretty messy in a wallet eh? Especially the pulp coming out of OAHI!

[dcook1]

And now Raymond, you can post the notice that states CHI can be used outside of BC.
OAHI has finally acceeded this.
I think I will bring this up at next OAHI meeting..... and put CHI as signature on all email....especialy email to OAHI

[rwand1]

David

Anyone in the Registry of OAHI is permitted to use RHI, that includes Applicants and Students and Associates. If you are being informed otherwise OAHI is in breach of the enacting legislation. Now the question remains why are they in breach of the legislation and why are they telling members they cannot use RHI? They are doing so to hold people down.

If you don't believe me I suggest you check with your lawyer. If anyone wants a copy of PR 158 let me know I will post it.

PR 158 also states unequivocally ..

12. (1) Every member of the Association
whose name appears in the register may use
the designations “Registered Home Inspector”
and “R.H.I.“.

(2) Any person in Ontario who, not being a
registered member of the Association, takes or
uses the designation “Registered Home Inspector”
or “R.H.I.“, alone or in combination with
any other word, name, title, initial or description,
or implies, suggests or holds out that that
person is a registered home inspector is guilty
of an offence.
(3) On conviction of an offence under subsection
(2), a person is liable to a fine of not
more than $5,000.

(4) The by-laws shall be open to examination
by the public at the head office of the
Association during normal office hours,

(2) The register shall be open to examination
by the public at the head office of the
Association during normal office hours.

Now I have asked several times where Head Office is. No answer. Gee I wonder why they cannot follow the rules. Sorry a PO Box is not acceptable as a head office.

http://www.raymondwand.ca

[dcook1]

Originally Posted by rwand1

David

Now I have asked several times where Head Office is. No answer. Gee I wonder why they cannot follow the rules. Sorry a PO Box is not acceptable as a head office.

http://www.raymondwand.ca

Just when I was going to climb into to that PO box to start reading.......

[rwand1]

I tried to put a stamp on my forehead, but it wouldn't stick!

I tried to put myself in a box and have someone mail me, but realized by the time the post office delivered it to head office I would starve to death, not to mention soiling myself and lack of oxygen! Ich!

There is also a rule you cannot send dangerous goods via mail!

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by dcook1

And now Raymond, you can post the notice that states CHI can be used outside of BC.
OAHI has finally acceeded this.
I think I will bring this up at next OAHI meeting..... and put CHI as signature on all email....especialy email to OAHI

David I do hope you know many of the OAHI/CAHPI BOD monitor this Bulletin Board .
They have in the past used post's from this BB against those who use this BB.
They continue to show how well they do not like NACHI and will ignore their Bylaws to try and punish others .
Been there done that .

Roy Cooke

[rwand1]

Kudos to David for speaking up and seeing through the fog of bullshet.

[George A. H. Luck]

"I tried to put a stamp on my forehead, but it wouldn't stick!

I tried to put myself in a box and have someone mail me, but realized by the time the post office delivered it to head office I would starve to death, not to mention soiling myself and lack of oxygen! Ich"

Come on Raymond. This is a serious subject. You should treat it with a little more respect. You could have used the system that NASA chick used;
diapers and a can of mace.

Did you punch holes in the box for breathing? Did you try Canada Post's express service? Did you even try to wash your forehead before application of postage? u.p.s / purolator / Fedex ?

I am sure that if you had been serious about this you could have had yourself delivered within 24 hours and in relative comfort. please in future treat this subject as the serious issue it is!


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