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Old 2/26/08, 12:15 PM
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Default Clearing The Air Over The N.c.p.

I will post a few questions about the National here to see if we can once again get the ball rolling. Let's try to keep this thread focused on asking and answering questions. This is our chance to "clear the air" once and for all. So here goes;

1) Specifically, what courses offered by community colleges in Canada have been approved for C.E.U.'s?

2) It is understood that there is some kind of 'points system' that allows every applicant to be assessed. What is the structure of that points system?

3) It has been stated many times that there is a real problem with the quality of Home Inspection in Canada and that this problem has led to many complaints both within and without the court system. What relevant documentation , studies, surveys have been used to arrive at this conclusion. ( to clarify the word 'relevant' I will pick an arbitrary figure and say not more than five years old)

There are three good questions and I hope that whomever replies will not hide behind "I am not in a position to answer / provide that information." We need answers and I hope that the effort will be made to find the information for us by those on the inside of the National programme.
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Old 2/26/08, 12:33 PM
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To add to George's inquiries, is there a list of approved community colleges availible at this time?
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Old 2/26/08, 1:14 PM
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Is this in the members only section for canadian inspectors?
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Old 2/26/08, 1:16 PM
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Canadians have funded CAHPI/NCA, they have a right to know the facts which Mr. Mullen refuses to publish.
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Old 2/26/08, 1:18 PM
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Is this in the members only section for canadian inspectors?
Sort of.

http://www.nachi.org/forum/f52/

It is, however viewable by all members.



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Old 2/26/08, 1:22 PM
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My hope was that any credible information posted here would be available to all Canadian inspectors viewing this thread. Is there a problem with this?
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Old 2/26/08, 1:27 PM
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My hope was that any credible information posted here would be available to all Canadian inspectors viewing this thread. Is there a problem with this?
The biggest problem is that Wand and Cooke are already trying to poison the process. They can't do that in the private members' section.

As I said earlier, if they are involved I won't subject myself or anyone else to their nonsense. For the sake of clarity and information, I hope that Ray & Roy respect you folks enough to stay out of this.

I will try to get some answers done later today.

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Old 2/26/08, 1:27 PM
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My hope was that any credible information posted here would be available to all Canadian inspectors viewing this thread. Is there a problem with this?
George,

Bill has clearly stated he will not participate if Roy and Ray post here.

Let someone else ask Bill the questions. It should be obvious soon whether or not Bill is giving helpful and accurate information.

When information that should be made available to a wider audience is found I'm sure a way could be found to post it on the open parts of the board.



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Old 2/26/08, 1:28 PM
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Sort of.

http://www.nachi.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=52

It is, however viewable by all members.
Sorry Michael the web site you listed can only be seen by NACHI members . If want to get information to the Canadian NONE NACHI members that will not work .

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Old 2/26/08, 1:30 PM
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Sorry Michael the web site you listed can only be seen by NACHI members . If want to get information to the Canadian NONE NACHI members that will not work .

Roy Cooke
Roy, I answered Joes question accurately. Go read his post.



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Old 2/26/08, 1:35 PM
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George,

Bill has clearly stated he will not participate if Roy and Ray post here.

Let someone else ask Bill the questions.
It should be obvious soon whether or not Bill is giving helpful and accurate information.

When information that should be made available to a wider audience is found I'm sure a way could be found to post it on the open parts of the board.
Thanks Michael but if you have read many of Bills posts you will see he has said this many times .
Also if you have read many of Bill and Claude's Posts you have seen they continue to talk in what is going to happen seldom do they give much information.
This is so unfortunate but I think they are holding back information for many reasons.
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But I would love to see the Canadian Home Inspector get the Information they need to make an informed decesion . I will not post on this String . Thanks Roy C
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Old 2/26/08, 1:37 PM
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Roy, I answered Joes question accurately. Go read his post.
Does not work for me Roy

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Old 2/26/08, 1:37 PM
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Well here is the chance for Bill and Claude to try once again. Let's give them the chance by posting our questions only.
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Old 2/26/08, 1:39 PM
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That's because you chose to no longer be a member.

Joe asked if there is a members only section for Canadians.



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Old 2/26/08, 1:54 PM
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Default Re: Clearing The Air Over The N.c.p.

How timely to deny Canadians the right to know about a tax funded program by removing it from where it belongs in the public forum and putting it were Mr. Mullen can hide facts. Facts that show he is not being truthful. The finances of CAHPI/NCA show it is not at arms length as so often touted by Mr. Mullen.

Mr. Mullen is also quick to deny that he has been forthcoming with info when in fact public documents which paint the entire story are with held to suit his agenda. Many members of the other Ontario Association will be quick to point out how quickly Mr. Mullen had public documents removed from that discussion board because those documents didn't line up with what he was portraying.

Now we also have discourse in Alberta with CAHPI not being truthful in its approach to National Certification and reluctance on the part of BC to become involved in discussions with the BC government because it CAHPI-BC wasn't getting its way. Fortunately the licensing issue will tame the CAHPI/National Shrew.
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