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Old 10/6/06, 6:51 PM
Roy D. Cooke, Sr Roy D. Cooke, Sr is offline
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Default Dave Bottoms is a slme Ball

Dave Bottoms has tried so hard to destroy NACHI and his continuing posts on the Canadian sites about NACHI has only helped NACHI to continue to grow in Canada.
He has convinced some of the OAHI/CAHPI directors how he is right and NACHI is wrong that unfortunately could lead to the colapse or huge changes in the Canadian associations.
So Strange how these learned people have been led down the garden path to destruction by a person who after 8 years is still not a home inspector .
He has convinced many to ignore the rules of the Canadian associations .
He is nothing but a slime ball and a trouble maker who is far from an asset to the Canadian Home Inspection Industry.
I expect I have done more inspections this year then he has done in his life time .
He follow no rules except his own that he seems to make up as he goes along.


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Re: Persecution of NACHI-OAHI Members for use of CHI
Ray this is just unreal you can not post OAHI material to this site but Mr. Bottoms is allowed to post stuff from our site to theirs.In all fairness we should close our site to Mr. Bottoms.
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Re: Persecution of NACHI-OAHI Members for use of CHI
Rob,

I have to caution you, anything you say or post will be used against you by OAHI.

OAHI is sinking in its own filth. It has destroyed any chance it had of successfully defending any and all actions against me. The proof is overwhelming of corruption and abuse of power.

BTW have you seen the quarterly reports as required under the by-law?

I asked on the OAHI CAFE forum where I could go see the records, but to no avail. I guess they don't want to explain the lack of accounting which they are obligated to provide.

I think Dave Bottoms is helping NACHI by sending OAHI members here so that they can read the truth. You can't get the truth at OAHI but you can get it here.

Thanks for speaking up that takes guts.
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No problem Ray and thanks.Unless we speak up the problems will not be fixed and will only get worse.
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Re: Persecution of NACHI-OAHI Members for use of CHI
Just to prove some in OAHI have special status, and OAHI knowingly is condoning it.

Very strange how a associate member who has utter threats, is able to keep on going like the Energizer Battery!

Also peculiar is the fact that when it comes time to file a complaint he backs away. Do you suppose thats because he has no evidence and that the by-laws do not back up his often repeated claims?

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Posted - 10/02/2006 : 23:50:45 7.10
Policy: Membership Forums (technical and general) Required Protocol

1. Two information forums will be provided for the member’s use. The Forums will allow members to discuss technical information and general information relating to the association or the operation of a home inspection business. To provide this service, OAHI requires that each member; Student, Applicant, Associate, RHI or Retired agrees to be bound by the rules and terms listed below.

2. The OAHI Membership Forums are a membership privilege (not a right) extended to every individual in the OAHI membership who is in good standing.

a) The purpose of the OAHI Membership Forum is strictly for the education of its participants (“Users”) in the technical aspects of the home inspection profession along with the sharing of information and personal experiences directly related to inspection issues.

b) The purpose of the Forum shall be to foster communication among OAHI members regarding the home inspection profession and the Association business.

c) Opinions expressed on the Forums are those of the authors and do not necessarily reflect the official position of OAHI or its Directors.

d) OAHI assumes no legal responsibility for the opinions or statements of the OAHI Forum Users.

e) OAHI does not officially respond to issues raised on the Forums. If you have an issue, concern or complaint regarding an OAHI member, policy, BOD or committee decision you should follow the proper procedures laid out in the OAHI bylaws.

f) All discussions will consist of appropriate language and shall not be slanderous, degrading or mean in spirit.

g) A select committee of volunteer OAHI members shall monitor the Forums. Disregard for the Forum rules will result in immediate suspension of the Forum privileges

h) BEWARE! OAHI does not promote the Forum to non members, but, as with any on line forum, your messages are potentially accessible by the public.

3. Access to the forums is limited to the OAHI MEMBERS in good standing who agree to abide by the following forum Rules for Users Agreement:

a) All subject matter is restricted to real estate inspections and related issues.

b) Respect other Users on the OAHI Membership Forum. You may express yourself, but not to injure harm or damage others. Users are expected to exercise professionalism, common sense and courtesy in the message transmitted over the OAHI Forums.

c) OAHI Membership Forums shall not be used to libel, slander, defame or disparage a member or candidate of OAHI or any other person, company or organization.

d) Anonymous posts are not permitted on the OAHI Membership Forums. All postings must include the member’s name.

e) Posts advertising or promoting any product or service or inspector membership other than OAHI directly or indirectly, are not permitted on the OAHI Forums, and will be removed promptly. ( CAHPI, ASHI discussions are excluded from this rule)

f) Use of the OAHI forum the distribution of unwanted email (spamming) is prohibited.

g) Use of the OAHI Forum for illegal activities is prohibited, including illegal drugs, gambling, pornography, prostitution, child pornography, robbery, spreading computer viruses, entering private computer discussion boards, soft wear infringement, trafficking in credit card codes, or other crimes.

h) The OAHI Forum is not to be used to communicate with others about prices, terms of service or other competitive information as this is a violation of the anti-trust laws. The OAHI Membership Forums constitutes an ongoing “meeting” of participants. Such meeting may involve competitors. The same rules against illegal agreements in restraint of trade that apply at members meetings apply to OAHI Forum communications.

i) Forum communication may not be down loaded without the express consent of the Forum Administrator. Users should be both fully informed about antitrust law regarding communication and agreements among competitors, and act in strict conformity with those rules.

j) The OAHI Membership Forums may not be used to violate and rules of membership in OAHI, the OAHI bylaws, or the OAHI code of conduct. The OAHI code of conduct rules apply to all Users of the Forum.

k) Do not upload or distribute files subject to trademark or copyright, or other proprietary rights except with the expressed consent of the owners of the rights.

l) OAHI Membership Forums are a benefit for OAHI membership only. Non-members are not permitted on the OAHI Membership Forums unless special permission is granted by OAHI

m) OAHI reserves the right without prior notice to modify or change these rules as it determines from time to time in the best interests of OAHI.

n) Posted items may be published in the OAHI news letter or the CAHPI’s “The Canadian Home Inspector” if the topic is deemed to be of interest to the general membership. The name of the person posting the information will not be published without their permission.

o) In accordance with the OAHI “Code of Conduct”, an inspector shall make every effort to uphold, maintain, and improve the professional integrity, reputation and practice of the home inspection profession. He or she will report such relevant information, including violations of this code by other members to the Association for possible remedial action.

p) Information posted to the OAHI Membership Forum becomes the intellectual property of the OAHI therefore, copying, cutting and/or distribution of Forum content in any form is strictly prohibited.

q) Forwarding or providing access in any form to the OAHI Forum or a link which provides access to the forum or the OAHI member’s site is not permitted.

Any violation to the Café (Forum) rules, or posts that in the opinion of the Cafe Monitor are improper will result in the immediate suspension from the Cafe. First offence will be 30 days, second offence will be 90 days, and all subsequent offences will be 1 year.

Edited by - Gerry.Quackenbush on 10/03/2006 09:41:41
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Posted - 10/03/2006 : 14:09:09

Gerry,

These rules seem to be in conflict with the by-laws, perhaps you could clarify them, and how decisions are made with no right of appeal. This runs contrary to the afforded rights in the by-laws and I believe members are entitled to appeal such wide latitude in directives that are not based or supported via the by-laws.

Raymond Wand RHI, CHI, ASHI, CFIHI


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Posted - 10/03/2006 : 17:15:40





Thanks for the new rules, Gerry.
quote: p) Information posted to the OAHI Membership Forum becomes the intellectual property of the OAHI therefore, copying, cutting and/or distribution of Forum content in any form is strictly prohibited.
I would like to lodge a complaint against one of our fellow forum members. It seems one of my OAHI private forum posts was placed on a U.S. public forum for all to read.

http://www.nachi.org/forum/showthread.php?p=96483#post96483

Thank you.
Dave Bottoms
Edited by - Dave.Bottoms on 10/03/2006 17:19:07
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Posted - 10/05/2006 : 16:10:56

COMPLAINT #2:

The following link was provided on a public forum by one of the members of this forum, contrary to the rules. The link shows a copy of a private OAHI forum post made by one of our members.
http://www.nachi.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5990&d=1160073515

And here is a link to the public forum in question (scroll up three or four posts):
http://www.nachi.org/forum/showthread.php?p=97626#post97626

Thank you,
Dave Bottoms

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Posted - 10/05/2006 : 18:31:02 Mr. Bottoms,

Please file your complaints thru the proper channels ( DPPC) and not here on the forum. If you contact the office they will be able to send you the documents that you require.
Lynda Lalich
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Dave.Bottoms

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Posted - 10/05/2006 : 18:52:38

Thank you, Ms Lalich, will do.

With all due respect:
Actually, after sleeping on it, I don't think I will make that complaint after all. The people to whom I'd be complaining are on this forum and can see for themselves that the mole is breaking the rules. They shouldn't need me to tell them what they already know in order to take action. To suggest one must file a complaint first implies that the rules only come into play if someone lodges a complaint, otherwise it's a free-for-all.

The person has broken the rules. I know it, you know it and the people who enforce the rules know it. Feel free to take action if you wish, or feel free to do nothing. Whatever you think is in the best interests of the members who use this private forum. Far be it from me to tell you or anyone how to do your job.

Again, no disrespect intended, just calling it like it is. Your mileage may vary.

Dave
Edited by - Dave.Bottoms on 10/06/2006 09:28:20








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C'mon, Roy. Quit beating around the bush. Do you like Dave Bottoms or not?
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C'mon, Roy. Quit beating around the bush. Do you like Dave Bottoms or not?
Really could care less about Dave Bottoms.
The thing I do not like is his continually lying about NACHI on Bill Mullens BB and the OAHI BB.
This is a guy who breaks many rules .
He has been a member of OAHI/CAHPI ( ASHI NORTH ) for 8 years.
The OAHI rules state you can only be an associate for 3 years .
The rules state you need to do 100 inspections to advance to an RHI .
He obviously has not managed to do 100 inspections in eight years that one inspection every 40 days.
He has caused more great inspectors to leave the industry then any one else I know .
He loves to spread hate and incorrect information.
He now is trying to sell his own computer program for home inspections for $1,000:00 ( would you buy a program from a guy who does not know how to do an inspection .
He continually takes Information from the NACHI site and changes it to make NACHI and its members look bad and post's it to the other sites.
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(b) “Associate Members”, previously known as “Provisional Members” shall be persons who:
(1) complete Baseline Accreditation qualification requirements described in Paragraph 1 of Article 4, and
(2) hold Associate Member status for a period not to exceed 3 years.
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YES !!

A good old fasioned town hanging is due...

YES !!





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YES !!

A good old fasioned town hanging is due...

YES !!
Thanks for your support.
That might improve things .
The best would be for the removal of the compete BOD they have shown complete ignore all rules OAHI and the Canadian government rules .
I seems CAHPI is not much better.
Looks to me like NACHI members are the only Home Inspectors treated properly by their association.

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