Do we need more Government Involvement

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

http://www.moneyville.ca/article/101...sing-lemon-law

Why we need a Danish housing ‘Lemon Law’
Home inspections are an important part of buying a house.
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By Mark Weisleder | Fri Jul 1 2011

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What we need in Ontario to protect resale home buyers from hidden defects is a lemon law like the one they have in Denmark.
Reader Anthony Caruso, living in Aalborg, reminded me that the Danes have a type of insurance — split equally between buyer and seller — that protects against unforeseen defects discovered after closing.
The policy costs between $1,200 and $3,000, depending on the age of the home, and is dependant on a home inspection. It will last for up to 10 years. The seller must not have done anything to deliberately cover up a defect or they may be held responsible later.
The insurer will then pay for hidden defects as they occur, as well as the costs of suing a seller who may have committed a fraudulent act in covering up any defects.
If Ontario had a similar process, I have no doubt it would result in sellers being more honest about the condition of their properties — and buyers, in turn, being more satisfied and protected.
But it won’t be easy. Kevin Hamilton of Moncton-based Lux Residential Warranty Program Inc. has offered a CMHC-approved new home warranty plan for Atlantic Canada for the past eight years. They are now finalizing a warranty plan that will soon be available for resale home buyers in Atlantic Canada and Ontario.
Their website lists all the things that could go wrong with your home after closing. There is also a detailed exclusion clause as to what will not be covered, including anything containing asbestos, flashing eaves, sewage backups or where there has been improper ongoing maintenance.
The maximum liability for any claim under this policy is $500 to $2,500, depending on the problem; the average premium will be about $385. Most buyers who find serious issues after closing need to spend much more than this. Still, this is a step in the right direction and Hamilton says they hope to increase these coverages as they learn more.
The lemon law column prompted a lot of mail from unhappy buyers, tradespeople, home inspectors and insurers. They all agree the current system does not work and buyers need much better education and protection when buying a resale home.
Doug McAllister, an electrician from Sudbury, commented that if he performs shoddy work, he will be held responsible. He figures he is probably more qualified than most home inspectors and says it is not right that anyone can put out a home inspector sign after taking courses for two weeks.
I think the government should get things going with regulations or a challenge to the home-inspection industry to develop continuing educational standards and avenues for consumer complaint.
Insurers can help by developing products that protect resale homebuyers.
In the interim, I encourage every resale homebuyer to include a clause in any contract that the seller represents and warrants that during their ownership they never experienced any water penetration, and if they have, to provide details of any repair work done.
If the seller refuses to sign, then ask for a more detailed inspection by a basement water or mould specialist, or adjust the price of your offer.

[Brian A. MacNeish]

YEPP!!!

[Wand Raymond]

Interesting in that many lawyers will advise vendors not to complete a VDIS (Vendor Disclosure Information Statement) or Property Information Statement.

This is wrong of the legal profession to be suggesting and advising not to complete such disclosure statements given that the process is to be honest, and ethical.

The result due to such advice is the onus of disclosure is put on the inspectors shoulders.

Too bad the author of this piece overlooked such info.

[Bill Mullen]

"I think the government should get things going with regulations or a challenge to the home-inspection industry to develop continuing educational standards and avenues for consumer complaint."


That is precisely what the government has done through CMHC and HRSDC in helping the home inspection industry to develop regulations and standards within the National Certification Program.

The program has been up and running for five years, and continues to follow the regulations and standards exactly as they were developed. The wheel does not need to be re-invented.......it already exists at the NHICC.

Bill Mullen PHPI; RHI; NHI
NHICC #NHI00001

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by Bill Mullen

"I think the government should get things going with regulations or a challenge to the home-inspection industry to develop continuing educational standards and avenues for consumer complaint."


That is precisely what the government has done through CMHC and HRSDC in helping the home inspection industry to develop regulations and standards within the National Certification Program.

The program has been up and running for five years, and continues to follow the regulations and standards exactly as they were developed. The wheel does not need to be re-invented.......it already exists at the NHICC.

Bill Mullen PHPI; RHI; NHI NHICC #NHI00001

Thanks Bill It seems strange you are the only one who makes these posts .
Any info I have received does not confirm what you have said many times .
Can you tell me why a self appointed secret Group should be the ones to control our industry.
I see no advantage to except what you say you have refused to answer questions over the years and now you think we should take your word .
Bill you track record stinks you have complained about NACHI,CAHPI,OAHI and told us how great PHPIO is .
You come on the NACHI site and blow your own horn .
I see no advantage in even considering you wants .

I think you see the light at the end of the tunnel and are in panic mode knowing good things are coming to Ontario and you are no longer in the loop .

[James H. Bushart]

It is my personal observation is that, if men were honest and were as respectful of the God given rights of others as they would seek for themselves, government would not be necessary.

I have also observed that those who are not honest and would seek to exploit others for their own personal or financial gain, continuously - and quite understandably - argue for less government.

[Joseph A. Ferry]

Originally Posted by jbushart

It is my personal observation is that, if men were honest and were as respectful of the God given rights of others as they would seek for themselves, government would not be necessary.

I have also observed that those who are not honest and would seek to exploit others for their own personal or financial gain, continuously - and quite understandably - argue for less government.

Well, I guess we need to persuade more big government state legislatures to pass more home inspector licensing legislation.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by jferry1

Well, I guess we need to persuade more big government state legislatures to pass more home inspector licensing legislation.

No way they are doing it on their own .
What we need to do is to have more input into what is happening in our industry through out North America.
To many inspectors do little to let those in power know what we think is needed .
We need all homies to get involved and help those who are trying to show our leaders we care and want to help our industry properly

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by jferry1

Well, I guess we need to persuade more big government state legislatures to pass more home inspector licensing legislation.

That would be the logical conclusion to Bushy's two statements!!

[Nick Gromicko]

I think the government should get things going with regulations or a challenge to the home-inspection industry to develop continuing educational standards

Most of the governments that have adopted licensing have already turned over continuing education to InterNACHI... more than 700 times already: www.nachi.org/education.htm

[Joseph A. Ferry]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Most of the governments that have adopted licensing have already turned over continuing education to InterNACHI... more than 700 times already: www.nachi.org/education.htm

And who can blame them?