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Old 12/25/09, 4:39 PM
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Looking for a Lab in Canada. Am sending vermiculite to Pro Lab and my clients are very unhappy with the time frame.
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Old 12/25/09, 6:05 PM
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I don't know too many in Canada. But try Emsl I do believe they are in Canada





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Old 12/25/09, 9:40 PM
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Pro lab now has a lab in ontario I find the response time great and im 500 miles away
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Old 12/25/09, 11:56 PM
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pro lab had results in 4 days for me where are you sending the sample



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Old 12/26/09, 5:16 AM
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Pinchin environmental in Mississauga does vermiculite for about $150.00 (Don't know how long though)

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Old 12/26/09, 7:13 AM
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Try Maxxam Analytics........$150 "set up" fee for first sample to get you into their system and then $50/sample for asbestos after first. Offices across Canada.
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Old 12/26/09, 9:19 AM
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Pinchin environmental in Mississauga does vermiculite for about $150.00 (Don't know how long though)

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I know its good to test vermiculite, but here in Massachusetts, I've had over 15 clients test their vermiculite insulation (samples from various areas of the attic) and not one has come up positive...to this date.
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Old 12/26/09, 10:28 AM
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I don't do the testing, I advise them of the situation with vermiculite and mention some enviromental companies that can do the testing for them.
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Old 12/26/09, 9:12 PM
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David I have done the same, and to date 10 samples sent 100% vermiculate, no asbestos found.
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It depends on the source of the vermiculite. If memory serves me right the vermiculite from a mine in Montana had asbestos in it. I've had three clients that had vermiculite tested and all three samples had asbestos in it.



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Yes Vern
The mine in Montana was the source and the brand name is Zonolite, made and sold by Grace Dearborne. That product, aparently, is the only one that contained traces of asbestos.

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Yes Vern
The mine in Montana was the source and the brand name is Zonolite, made and sold by Grace Dearborne. That product, aparently, is the only one that contained traces of asbestos.

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I've had two attics full of Zonolite bags and both tests came back with negative ACM's (Asbestos Containing Materials). It must be a location thing.

Don't get me wrong, I always warn my Buyers about ACM's in Vermiculite, but I'm still waiting for the day when the test results come in positive.

Here's my pics....

One house with several brown paper bags full of Zonolite....
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Another house with Zonolite in plastic bags manufactured by W.R. Grace...
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The mine in Montana was the source and the brand name is Zonolite, made and sold by Grace Dearborne. That product, aparently, is the only one that contained traces of asbestos.

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There are reports that approximately 70% of the vermiculite sold in NA came from the Libby, Montana mine and it all contained from under 0.5% up to 4-5% asbestos. One brand mined and sold in Canada, Micafil, has never been known to contain asbestos.

Sampling technique can be an issue.....The microscopic fibers fall through the nodules and end up on the underlying substrate. So you must get a sample of that dust. I have had a house sampled by different persons show both + and - results!!!
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Old 12/28/09, 10:47 AM
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Try Maxxam Analytics........$150 "set up" fee for first sample to get you into their system and then $50/sample for asbestos after first. Offices across Canada.
I've sent many samples to ProLab and they charge $7 per sample. Thier turn around time has always been excellent.
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I've sent many samples to ProLab and they charge $7 per sample. Thier turn around time has always been excellent.
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