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View Poll Results: Does CAPHI need NACHI members for CHIBO to survive?
Yes 27 46.55%
No 15 25.86%
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Old 1/8/06, 1:35 PM
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I think NACHI should be doing more to stop CMHC from thinking there is only one orginisation in Canada for home inspecters
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Old 1/8/06, 1:41 PM
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I think NACHI should be doing more to stop CMHC from thinking there is only one orginisation in Canada for home inspecters
We do not always know what is going on regarding NACHI & other associations.
All we can do is keep voicing our thoughts and opinions we need to keep getting the information as it is received out to all other Inspectors and here and this forum http://www.gogetforum.com/homeinspec...t-310.html#310
looks like the best way to do it.

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I was told this would happen by a member of OHIA BOD and that they were going to go around to each realestate office to spead the word about only hiring members of OHIA CAPHI that had the national certifcation.
I would like to know what NACHI is going to do about it
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Old 1/8/06, 2:55 PM
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I have seen members of OAHI talk realtors into putting in their agreement of purchase and sale, that the house be inspected only by a OAHI inspector.
So I am not surprised by their tactics.
But rather than sit around and wait for the s&*t to hit the fan, I'm going to join them, and tackle their tactics head on. I will not rest until I get to the bottom of their schemes.
It's time for someone to have some balls and take this organization on. I have contacts within CMHC, and the Federal Govt. so I am going to be going into battle.



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I was told this would happen by a member of OHIA BOD and that they were going to go around to each realestate office to spead the word about only hiring members of OHIA CAPHI that had the national certifcation.
I would like to know what NACHI is going to do about it
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Old 1/8/06, 3:57 PM
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Tyrone; I have sat here and watched and read everthing that has to be said about the national certifaction but as of to date do not see NACHI doing anything about it and it could be to late.I for one can not see this national certifaction going anywhere but in the toilet since it is only voluntary.
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Old 1/8/06, 5:35 PM
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Tyrone

Been there done that as have many people before you. They don't want to follow the rules, and they don't care to have it questioned. You can't have self regulation and only apply half of the rules.

Now that you have spoken out your name, rank, and file number have been sent to the OAHI security office. Oooops.

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Old 1/8/06, 6:28 PM
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I have spoken out against them many time before. And trust me, they know my name, file number, street address. And considering the fact that my competition in Barrie are mostly affiliated with OAHI, they have been pissed off with me moving in on their territority.
This is not something I take lightly, I am ready for action.



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Tyrone

Been there done that as have many people before you. They don't want to follow the rules, and they don't care to have it questioned. You can't have self regulation and only apply half of the rules.

Now that you have spoken out your name, rank, and file number have been sent to the OAHI security office. Oooops.

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Old 1/8/06, 6:42 PM
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I have seen members of OAHI talk realtors into putting in their agreement of purchase and sale, that the house be inspected only by a OAHI inspector.
So I am not surprised by their tactics.
But rather than sit around and wait for the s&*t to hit the fan, I'm going to join them, and tackle their tactics head on. I will not rest until I get to the bottom of their schemes.
It's time for someone to have some balls and take this organization on. I have contacts within CMHC, and the Federal Govt. so I am going to be going into battle.
I would just love to get ahold of a copy of one of these offers from an agent I can see milage made from this that could make OAHi look not very nice.
I am surprised to think any agent would even be silly enough to do this . Please do send letters ask questions . The more inspectors who ask questions ( Please be polite ) of CMHC,Your MP and any other person who could help the better. Many members have been doing just that for many months .
All the information has come out from asking and writing questions to many people and associations.
I would not be too concerned with OAHI, They have done little in the past and the membership is down again . NACHI continues to grow and do things for its members .
I feel it is wishfull thinking of some about the NATIONAL CERTIFICATION.
OAHI has 212 RHI's NACHI has 381 CHI's in Ontario and growing.
Stand up for NACHI and watch OAHI squirm.
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Old 1/8/06, 9:04 PM
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I have seen members of OAHI talk realtors into putting in their agreement of purchase and sale, that the house be inspected only by a OAHI inspector.
I think that would be very questionable from a legal standpoint. OAHI is assuming liability by doing or even suggesting that. The first time an OAHI inspector screws up you can bet that little diddy of contractual term will be torn apart. I think it would be termed negligent referral. Any savy Realtor would likely not endorse it or use it.

Addendum. Tyrone I am not doubting your story.

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Old 1/8/06, 10:00 PM
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I just compiled a list of Home Inspection Companies in Alberta and came up with 86 listings in the Yellow pages.
Last time I checked NACHI had 24 members.
CAPHI about the same number.
Many are members of both organizations.
The leaves 62 not members of either assoc.
These numbers are from companies and individuals I Assumed single person companies.

Do not have an accurate count of the CAHPI members but if someone is a member maybe they would like comfirm my estimates.

ASET has 16,500 technologist members in Alberta and NWT. ASET has been lobbing the Porv grovnment for 40 years trying to get legisation recogizing technologists. They have not succeeded yet.

If ASET with 16,500 members can not get the governments attention how in hell is CAPHI going to do it with about 25 members?



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I did a quick count from the various provincial chapters of CAHPI and these are the numbers taken from those websites.

BC - site down
Alberta 58
Sask 12
Ont. ?
Que. 87
NewFoundland 3
PEI 2
Nova Sc. 28
New Brun. 13

Nachi Ont. 387

Even if you allow 100 either way?

Where are the rest?

I know that Oahi lists "Test Dummy" as a RHI, but we have yet to find out who really is the dummy. Seems to be a closely guarded secret. But I do have my suspicions.

Raymond Wand
Alton, ON

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Tyrone
Any time you need any help what so ever in Barrie let me know and I will be more than happy to come up there and help market NACHI. I'm sure I am not the only one in Ontario who feels that we have to make a strong stand on making NACHI's presence known. I know that sometimes it feels like but there is help for the asking. : nachi:
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Addendum. Tyrone I am not doubting your story.

Raymond Wand
Alton, ON[/quote]

Further to that, I was chosen by the agent to do the inspection, she didn't even read the clause, because its not a legitimate one.
The vendor was the daughter of a OAHI inspector.
It gets better!!!


I inspected the house, when entering the home, the daughter came and approached me, and said, "my dad is *&^%^^&)() (*&^%$, hes the best inspector in Barrie, he already inspected my home, and there are no deficiencies in the house.
I found numerous deficiencies in the house, and, of course took pictures.
I completed the report, went back to meet the agent, she said, how did it go, and I told her of the deficiencies. She was pissed, and called the "inspector", while I was there he said there is no deficiencies, I will swear by it. Her response, I have a picture of an overfused panel, a damaged rafter, clogged duct work, and the list goes on.......
From that experience, I picked up well over 25 new agents from the office that this so called inspector was getting most of his work.
My response to all this is......WATCH OUT OAHI, NACHI IS MOVING IN AND TAKING OVER!!!!!!!!!
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Old 1/9/06, 10:43 AM
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Good move Tyrone .
You are just confirming what I saw when I was on the OAHI Disipline Committee, Not all OAHI Registered Home Inspectors are as good as they should be.
Thanks for your report.
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George

I see you belong to CFIHI.

You wouldn't happen to have 3,500 inspectors in your association would you? We are looking for 3,500 home inspectors who seem to have been lost. We think we can account for approximately 1,500 inspectors but as to the rest....

Only kidding!
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