Does CAPHI need NACHI members

[Robert Francis]

News Release

3500 Home inspectors found living the high life in the South Pacfic.

When ask how they can afford this lifestyle on doing mere home inspections?

They all answered by selling courses, and etc. and funding to do so by the government.

[rwand1]

Funny!
You'll likely see Elvis before you see 3500 home inspectors!

.... thank you, thank you very much ....

Raymond Wand
Alton, ON

[Vern Mitchinson, CMI]

Originally Posted by rwand1

http://www.cmhc-schl.gc.ca/en/burema...hose_ce35b.cfm

I think this is a new publication it is listed as Jan. 2006.

Raymond Wand
Alton, ON

I read that publication a couple of years ago. It says that CAHPI will have national standards by 2005.
Since NACHI has as many if not more canadian inspectors then CAHPI CMHC being a public body funded by my tax dollars they should recognize all home inspection assoc. Perhaps some of you fellows in Ont. could visit CMHC head offices and point this out to them.

[rwand1]

It seems someone has been able to bend the Liberals ears again. As usual the Liberals spend, spend, spend. No accoutability. I watched Paul Martin last night. Someone should tie his hands behind his back. I was waiting for him to start flapping his arms, hoping he would fly away. He is a WASP he is not even Italian. Judging by the use of the hands I was beginning to think he is Italian.

Now yet another RCMP investigation into Quebec and Action Canada.

The only reason I thought the CMHC document was new is because on the Google search it listed it as 2006.

Raymond Wand
Alton, ON

[George A. H. Luck]

Those 3,500 members are about half of the 7000 woking in Kingston and area!

[rwand1]

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They may wish to send some of the management of CAHPI back to school because I haven't seen any of the qualities in the leadership as stated below.

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Take a look at their CV they are not even former home inspectors.

This is the company CAHPI has retained for National Certification.

Raymond Wand
Alton, ON

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

I keep trying to think positive but I do not see how this National Certification can hope to succeed with the way it is now.
We have OAHI with there directors having a lot to say.
OAHI does not even follow their own rules and they are trying to give directions on the future of the home inspection in Canada.
It could be better if they first cleaned up their own Association before getting involved with trying to get the National Certification going.
This really is the fox guarding the hen house.

Roy Cooke sr.... R.H.I..... CAHPI-ON

[lewens]

So, Roy,
Feel better now that you got that out? Are you done trashing for today? Now will you get off your high horse and instead of ******** do something constructive? All I have talked to have said the same thing. Giving information is one thing, continually cutting up OAHI is counterproductive. We are getting tired of hearing it.
Larry

[rwand1]

Who is we?

You have no idea how OAHI is managed. OAHI is directly related to the way CAHPI is run because CAHPI will be run by OAHI in Ontario. Special interests and closed door decisions are our business and my business because the same interests in Ontario are in CAHPI and it appears they will be influencing things. We all know where CAHPI and OAHI stand on and think about any other association that doesn't fit their agenda.

Raymond Wand
Alton, ON

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by lewens

So, Roy,
Feel better now that you got that out? Are you done trashing for today? Now will you get off your high horse and instead of ******** do something constructive? All I have talked to have said the same thing. Giving information is one thing, continually cutting up OAHI is counterproductive. We are getting tired of hearing it.
Larry

To Bad Larry Waite till you walk a mile in my shoes .
Let the past be is not the proper way for things to be.
If it was wrong last year then its still wrong.

Your turn just might arrive and it will be interesting to see how you handle it .
Roy Sr

[lewens]

Guys
I don't give a rats a** about OAHI or CAHPI and I am tired of hearing how hard done by Roy is about what happened at OAHI. OAHI is not the issue, the National certification is the issue and how CAHPI wil be administering it. All else is irrelevent. If you want to trash another association tkae it to the Canadian forum John set up for that purpose. I will be more than happy to post my views there on the National Initiative and its impact on the industry. I will not trash any associations. If you have a beef with OAHI take it to them, if they do not want to deal with it that is there perogative. I am getting tired of seeing OAHI all over this forum. They have done nothing to me and I really don't care what is happening with them. The only way I can see to promote NACHI is to do exactly that, promote NACHI, all else is countrproductive. If OAHI can't get it's act together it will not last very long in Ontario and I don't see that happening. They have too much to lose. If the membership gets tired of the association they will look elsewhere and NACHI is going to look really attractive. This appears to be happening already. Yes get the word out but stop trashing here. If this offends you, oh well, I respect the both of you and really appreciate your contributions to the industry but enough is enough.
Larry

[bjones1]

Well said Larry!
Unfortuneatly, methinks that you're beating your head against a wall. You, Me and others have asked Roy to tone the rhetoric down, but he doesn't seem to get the message. I gave up long ago.

[lewens]

Don't get me wrong
I have nothing but respect for both Ray and Roy
Larry

[rwand1]

CAHPI will not survive by being selective they must be inclusive if they want it to succeed. That is why Nachi members and participation is critical. I guess that is why Mr. Mullen behind the scenes has come cap in hand. Thats okay the political climate may change things anyway. Heck even Sheila Copps the former Liberal and Deputy Prime Minister is now campaigning for the conservative member in her former riding! Wow who'd a thought? Raymond Wand Alton, ON

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Larry Ewens said Guys
I don't give a rats a** about OAHI or CAHPI and I am tired of hearing how hard done by Roy is about what happened at OAHI. OAHI is not the issue, the National certification is the issue and how CAHPI wil be administering it. All else is irrelevent. If you want to trash another association tkae it to the Canadian forum John set up for that purpose. I will be more than happy to post my views there on the National Initiative and its impact on the industry.

Brian M. JonesWell said Larry!
Unfortuneatly, methinks that you're beating your head against a wall. You, Me and others have asked Roy to tone the rhetoric down, but he doesn't seem to get the message. I gave up long ago
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I am sorry that you gentleman feel that I am too strong .
Well it is for you me and all other Home Inspectors that I am concerned .
I do believe you have never been involved with OAHI like I have .
I have seen it from the inside and know how they operate.
Some feel I should let the past go.

This is what is wrong in too many places in the world today hide and ignore .

Well I can not and will not .
OAHI had did and still does not follow their rules .
These are the people who would like to control our industry in the future.
If I felt there was a chance they would do it properly then I would give them all the assistance I could .
This is not about what happened with me and OAHI this is about what OAHI is still about.
I can prove every one of my statements and have many reasons to want a proper group looking after your and my future.
They do not follow the rules set down by the government for their Association.
They do not answer to the members complaints.
No matter what you think it has been my concern from day one follow the rules .
I feel the National certification or a license is necessary for the good of all.
Not giving a rats ***** could just give this to the wrong people.
I have not seen one small bit of proof that I am wrong!

Roy Sr.