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Old 8/31/06, 11:22 PM
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Looks Like We Have Some Competition!!





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Old 9/1/06, 12:30 AM
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Mario, they are not our competitors. This is the agency that oversee electrical safety. http://www.esainspection.net/ They do not perform home inspections.



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Old 9/1/06, 12:53 AM
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Mario, they are not our competitors. This is the agency that oversee electrical safety. http://www.esainspection.net/ They do not perform home inspections.
BUT THEY DO ELECTRICAL INSPECTIONS YURI!!


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Old 9/1/06, 8:22 AM
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Provincial statistics from the Fire Marshal’s office on home fires have not provided any indication that knob and tube wiring provides a higher risk associated with fire that result from home wiring.

In addition, Electrical Safety Authority investigations of home fires, at the request of local Fire Departments, have not created any concern associated with knob and tube wiring. In 2000 there were 6,738 electrical associated fires in Ontario according to the official reports of the Fire Marshal’s Office. The majority of these fires were associated with electrical stove top/ranges. The total number of fires associated residential electrical wiring in the same year was 354. From Electrical Safety Authority investigations the most common cause of home fires from wiring result from unsafe wiring practices and installations that do not meet the requirements of the Ontario Electrical Safety Code.
Unfortunately it is the insurance companies that have made this an issue. I have said for years the facts do not back up the claims the insurers are making that KT wiring is causing or creating more home fires. It is a reaction of the insurance companies reducing their risk.

Fwiw. Ontario Hydro has never condemned KT, aluminum, or 60 amp service, but many insurance companies have condemned it! The insurance companies are not an inspection or code authority. They have no power whatsoever other then what they wish to dictate as policy.
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Old 9/1/06, 8:46 AM
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Ray And Yuri

I Agree,what The Insurance Industry Wants Is Usually What They Get.they Like To Cover There Six.sometimes I Can't Blame Them


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Old 9/1/06, 9:18 AM
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Recieved this the other day from OAHI

http://www.oahi.com/reading/0608Noti...sPanelTCl2.pdf



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Old 9/1/06, 9:31 AM
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Received this the other day from OAHI

http://www.oahi.com/reading/0608Noti...sPanelTCl2.pdf
Sorry I feel this is just Terry Carson and his Group
( They are the group that Many have no idea about who really run OAHI ) (The BOD are just figure heads and do not have much authority on this association)
( my feelings from many past dealings with them ).
...have a lot to say that will not effect me and most other great inspectors.
As per usual OAHI seems to run on fear for most decisions .
Remember OAHI has never won an appeal yet that I know of that has been put forth by a member.

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Not any different then inspector walking roofs. If you are not harnessed and tied off the Ministry of Labour will find you and fine you!
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Ray I agree and I will continue to walk roofs and take covers off panels.How ells can we do a proper inspection.



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Rob,

I don't walk roofs, unless I can safely reach it with my 10' folding ladder. If I can't its from the ground (obviously as I don't own an helicopter) with or without binoculars. Have been doing it this way for years now. No complaints.
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Old 9/1/06, 10:56 PM
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Ray I do the same thing if it cannot be done safely I will inspect the best I can from the ground, ladder at eve or with field glasses.The guy I work for fell off of a ladder 2 years ago and now he can't do inspections because of his injuries, and I do not want to end up like.



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Rob,

You'd be surprised at the number of inspectors who have fallen from roofs. Just ask any nurse or doctor at emergency ward in hospital. They will tell you they see more injuries as a result of ladder accidents.
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Remember to only climb as high as you care to fall. A tight bungee cord around the rails and fastened securely to the gutter helps. A level footing is a must.
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I would suggest that simply removing the panel cover does not constitute "working " near electricty. I do not know of an electrician that does not remove the panel cover to look at a panel while the main is still powered up. This, along with the rediculous requirement that we tie off when on a roof, is just going a little too far. How are we supposed to get to the tie off point without walking on the damned roof and then spend time finding the tie offs. By the time I have done that the roof inspection is just about over.
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Larry

I think the message being sent out is that inspectors should take appropriate precautions, i.e. wear appropriate clothing, shoes, safety glasses when checking the panel.
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