Engineering Licensing Body Obtains Order Against Home Inspector

[Shawn C. Penney]

Hi Raymond,

Ramond wrote:
Shawn comes into the picture like a bull in a china shop, tells us all about the evils and denial of opportunities, possible legal actions, case law, but still hasn't posted one shred of documentation either case law or what he received to enlighten his decision to apply for National Certification.


Raymond, I will not subject myself to your level of intelligence on this grave matter.........(read the articles in the most recent CAHPI magazine and you will get the scoop on code liability and trends)........warning...please be careful you might get some accuracy.......
Raymond, I will invite you, or any other member for that reason (please), as my guest and i would be willing to absorb the cost-- to settle any confusion about my decision (BTW dating back 2 years plus--pilot project).
As for the documentation or questions you asked about the National, read the articles and documentation you emailed me. I think you are missing the forest for the trees.You emailed all the necessary info anybody would need to make an informed decision. Unless......that person (you) choose to ignore your own research/findings.

Raymond, when i see a good thing, i get on board. I did so with NACHI. NACHI has it's benefits as well as CAHPI and i see that. I also see NACHI has some ill informed members who like to rant. Please attend and be informed or rant as usual and be misinformed. Raymond, i have read so many of your post with no facts, substance or accuracy. On the other hand i have also read some articles you posted that was informative.
I knew it was just a matter of time you would eventually attack myself if and when truth hurt you. Raymond i am your friend and will be despite what you read or write. Attend and be informed.

You decide.

cheers

[Shawn C. Penney]

Hi Mario,

Thank you for your response

You are right we do have to ask question...... We need to keep it in context and get to the nucleus of the matter. Not out in left field, as some do, and miss the target ALL together.

your friend

[rwand1]

As for the documentation or questions you asked about the National, read the articles and documentation you emailed me. I think you are missing the forest for the trees.You emailed all the necessary info anybody would need to make an informed decision. Unless......that person (you) choose to ignore your own research/findings.

Shawn, you seemed to have forgotten the original question, the one you avoided. That question was, what info did you receive from the National that you did not receive from me? I know I sent you the info because you couldn't get it form CAHPI/National, so you are welcome. I am glad it helped you make an informed decision. But how are the others who will not receive the info, get it? Please don't confuse the issue anymore than that which you have made it.

Please attend and be informed or rant as usual and be misinformed. Raymond, i have read so many of your post with no facts, substance or accuracy. On the other hand i have also read some articles you posted that was informative.

Shawn, that is strange coming from someone who will not post links or documents you yourself keep telling us you know about. You have done this with case law, tort law, negligence et cetera. Not one iota of documents to prove that maybe you don't know as much a you maye be alluding to.

I guess all the postering by you about legal action against CAHPI/National was all hype. For someone who claims to be a law clerk you seem to be short on providing evidence.

Thanks Shawn, you have been enlightening.

[Shawn C. Penney]

Hi Raymond,

Raymon wrote:
Also initially you were all gung ho mentioning that this whole affair was going to end up with court action. Now I see you are eargerly telling us the National is good.

Raymond, everyone/anyboby has to make up his/her own mine to join NACHI, CAPHI, ASHI or any other associaion not mentioned or orginization not mentioned for that matter.

I am still gung ho (determined) to challenge the codes requirement and i will. Fact being, it (codes requirement) is a no brainer to challenge. It just takes time for others to assess the potential outcomes --pros and cons.
If codes become part of the training, one court case, will shut it down completely. BTW I have received numerous emails concurring with my concerns about codes, in cluding your email Raymond.

I will not sit and rant, complain and be idle on an issue that can and will affect my livlihood. Nor will i insult my intelligence ( as i feel i am doing ) by responding to some of your unresearched postings and/or messages.


your friend

[rwand1]

Shawn,,

What email did I send you?

[Shawn C. Penney]

Hi Raymond,

I am still your friend. I do respect your opinion.

For the record, I am not your teacher. I am not your sitter. I will help and assist you any way i can.

I think i am informed. I am a team player. I will joint CAHPI nationally. I will be a member of NACHI years to come. I will be a regional member years to come.

I will be disappointed if codes requirement is not dropped. I will consider my paralegal practice if codes is not taken out of the training requirements.

your friend

[Shawn C. Penney]

Raymond wrote:
Shawn,,

What email did I send you?

Hi Raymond,

Raymond, you sent NCP attachments.

WOW... would i have fun with you in a legal proceeding......

I am still your friend

cheers

[rwand1]

Shawn

I wish you luck with the National and that was not my intention to discourage you.

It is safe to assume by your lack of response that you did not receive anything from CAHPI/National.

Thanks for reaffirming what the email was. You are correct that is the document with the NC documents I sent you, the documents you wouldn't have knowledge to otherwise.

Have you ever been evasive on the stand when being questioned?

[Shawn C. Penney]

Hi Raymond,

I am still your friend.

I will inform you as i receive (both professionally and legally). I will not however, rely on your full disclosure.....things tend to get lost, poorly researched or misinterpreted.

cheers

[Mario A. Kyriacou, CHI]

Originally Posted by spenney

Hi Mario,

Thank you for your response

You are right we do have to ask question...... We need to keep it in context and get to the nucleus of the matter. Not out in left field, as some do, and miss the target ALL together.

your friend

Left field? Are you feeling OK?

[Nick Gromicko]

Bill Mullen:

Just saw your post on page 1 of this thread. You are incorrect about NACHI's message board. Anyone can post on NACHI's message board and always could. No one has ever been blocked. No posts are ever deleted or edited. I myself don't even have admin function access to this message board and don't know of anyone at NACHI (other than IT dept) who does. I've spent a small fortune in court defending the free speech enjoyed by all here from attacks by the anti-American Minneapolis association. Believe me... all are welcome.

[Bill Mullen]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Bill Mullen:

Just saw your post on page 1 of this thread. You are incorrect about NACHI's message board. Anyone can post on NACHI's message board and always could. No one has ever been blocked. No posts are ever deleted or edited. I myself don't even have admin function access to this message board and don't know of anyone at NACHI (other than IT dept) who does. I've spent a small fortune in court defending the free speech enjoyed by all here from attacks by the anti-American Minneapolis association. Believe me... all are welcome.

So, if someone, say Dave Bottoms, wants to post messages on the NACHI forum he would not be blocked? My understanding is that this person has been blocked for quite some time.

Bill Mullen

[rwand1]

Dave Bottoms was blocked for making threats, he was also posting under numerous false names, and using the private Nachi email system to make even more threats.

I know because I had quite a talk with Chris Morrell at the time.

Bottoms was also given the heave ho off the OAHI CAFE for breaking those rules too.

[Bill Mullen]

Originally Posted by rwand1

Dave Bottoms was blocked for making threats, he was also posting under numerous false names, and using the private Nachi email system to make even more threats.

I know because I had quite a talk with Chris Morrell at the time.

Bottoms was also given the heave ho off the OAHI CAFE for breaking those rules too.

In other words, regardless of the circumstances, Dave Bottoms was blocked, so it is incorrect to state that "No one has ever been blocked. No posts are ever deleted or edited. "

I rest my case.

Bill

[rwand1]

Bill

Its a very serious offence to be making threats on the internet. I would also like to point out that the nature of Daves offences were most certainly beyond the realm of free speech, so much so that Bottoms was reported several times to the OPP. Isn't this scoundrel and ner do well the Editor and Chief of the Canadian Home Inspector Magazine?

Also please remember you have personally thrown off three people on the Canuck list for calling you a liar, while you tolerate other questionable posts that verge on defamation.

So I rest my case too!