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Old 4/9/08, 3:55 PM
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Michael

Thanks for the promotion here is the address.

http://www.gogetforum.com/?mforum=provincialcfihi

George Luck should be given credit as CFIHI is his baby! I think the numbers are growing too which bodes well for Canadians.

Thanks again.
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Old 4/9/08, 3:56 PM
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I don't think you like any form of opposing opinion. Especially that which is in contradiction with your own.
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Old 4/9/08, 3:58 PM
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As so many have pointed out already, Roy... pretending for a moment that Wand was unjustly expelled....his subsequent actions have more than validated that it was the right thing to do.

As you can see, he is nothing more now than a dharris wannabe. Even dharris has membership in ASHI that he tries to promote. Wand has only himself, and no one is buying it but you.
WHOOPS can you show me any where that a person does has any support on previous accusations.
Raymond has only been defending him self from his attackers who are gloating on how great they did removing one of the best helpers NACHI has in Canada.
The esop reminds me of Quick draw McGrew he was so fast with his draw he shot him self in the foot before he even got the gun out of the holster .
Well you guys are just as klutzy as Quick draw McGrew.
You shot your self in the foot .
Not one has the courage to admit you goofed BIG TIME. Keep up the good work well worth the chuckles we get



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Excuse me but Joe phone me at about 8;00 pm and told me to call Raymond and tell him to remove his post or he will be out of NACHI tonight.
Did not sound like he had removed him self from this .
Seeing as how you are speaking for the ESOP I ask now If Ray was wrong and and had of been given a sensible punishment
( like a seven day suspension ) do you think we would be having this discussion .
Do you think NACHI would have not been better of and still have two of thew oldest Canadian still giving all NACHI members great information.
It goes back to the Newbie Inspector is the big looser. Logic did not come into this at all it was just the ESOP showing they have the power and authority and they used it .
Glad for you guys hope it did you ego well !

No I am not whipping a dead Horse I am showing all how poor a job our esop does, did, and I expect, will continue to do.
The ESOP lacks the ability to look at them selves and ask what did we do wrong, and how can we avoid all this in the future.
Stop being a moron.

Joe called you to help him get the post removed. He had already demanded it on the thread after it was posted. This was before any committee involvement and while it was still between you, Ray and Joe (the email chain).

Once the official complaint was filed, Joe recused himself. The remainder of the committee read about four or five posts to determine that a violation had happened, that Wand knew he was in violation and had a chance to correct himself, and that Wand intentionally decided not to.

Not much to look at, really.

Since then, Wand has proven to even his close friends (other than you) that it was a sound decision.

Nothing that you do to keep it open is going to change anything, other than to make you look more like an idiot than you already do. Stop it, Roy.

Call someone you like and trust and ask them what they think you should do from this point.



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Old 4/9/08, 3:59 PM
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Michael

I don't think you like any form of opposing opinion. Especially that which is in contradiction with your own.
Quite the contray Raymond. I learn from opposing opinions and even change my own at times.



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Okay I admit the ESOP screwed up with me big time!
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Michael,

You are an enigma in your own mind.
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Old 4/9/08, 4:01 PM
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Okay I admit the ESOP screwed up with me big time!
And you would be wrong once again.



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Old 4/9/08, 4:04 PM
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Michael,

You are an enigma in your own mind.
At least my enigmatic mind still functions quite well thank you.



He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors - Thomas Jefferson - Founding Father

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson

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Old 4/9/08, 4:06 PM
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Typical of an enigmatic person to be an egomaniac too!
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Old 4/9/08, 4:07 PM
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Stop being a moron.

Joe called you to help him get the post removed. He had already demanded it on the thread after it was posted. This was before any committee involvement and while it was still between you, Ray and Joe (the email chain).

Once the official complaint was filed, Joe recused himself. The remainder of the committee read about four or five posts to determine that a violation had happened, that Wand knew he was in violation and had a chance to correct himself, and that Wand intentionally decided not to.

Not much to look at, really.

Since then, Wand has proven to even his close friends (other than you) that it was a sound decision.

Nothing that you do to keep it open is going to change anything, other than to make you look more like an idiot than you already do. Stop it, Roy.

Call someone you like and trust and ask them what they think you should do from this point.
Thanks James but I do get lots of emails agreeing with my post.
They off course know how vindictive and are not out spoken like me .
They do not want you after them like some on the esop have treated me .
I sure understand why so many no longer post on the NACHI site with people like you leading the attack.
You see James I do not need you or the others and care less about your ability to provide me with much assistance .
fortunately I do not need your help.
Others of course are not so fortunate to have many great educated friends I can call on.
Unfortunately this BB also does not have so many great HIs posting here like they used too.



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Old 4/9/08, 4:09 PM
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Typical of an enigmatic person to be an egomaniac too!
Just stating he facts Raymond.

Time for me to leave for a while again. Try to enjoy life Raymond. It's far too short to to get involved in constant feuding.

Ta Ta



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Old 4/9/08, 4:11 PM
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You should post some of those not so private emails you rec'd from the morons. Its clear given the content of those emails that the ESOP is ethically challenged and two faced.
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Old 4/9/08, 4:12 PM
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Unfortunately this BB also does not have so many great HIs posting here like they used too.
Why not do us all a favor and join them in their silence. That should really teach us a big lesson, Roy.



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Old 4/9/08, 4:29 PM
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There are still many great HI here but they aren't posting much because some people are going from thread to thread pissing on the wall and making a complete nusance of themselves with their whining and Jr High School antics. I had hoped that everyone would just simply ignore them but if you feed a stray cat or dog it just keeps coming back.
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