The ESOP ?????

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by rcooke

Thanks James

Any time, Roy. Glad to help.

[Raymond E. Wand]

James

Why would an ethics committee member call Roy Cooke and speak to Roy in the manner he did? Given that Roy was not involved, Joe infringed upon the COE, not only as a member, but as an ESOP committee member.

Seems to me justice has not been dispensed equally nor to set standards befitting a so called self regulating organization.

[Raymond E. Wand]

3. Duty to the Profession and InterNACHI

The InterNACHI member shall not engage in any act or practice that could be deemed damaging, seditious or destructive to InterNACHI, fellow InterNACHI members, InterNACHI employees, leadership or directors. Member(s) accused of acting or deemed in violation of such rules shall be reviewed by the Ethics committee for possible sanctions and/or expulsion from InterNACHI.

I guess calling Roy Cooke and letting into him should be considered as a breach of rule 3. - engage, act, practice, could be deemed damaging - fellow members - destructive.

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by Raymond E. Wand

James

Why would an ethics committee member call Roy Cooke and speak to Roy in the manner he did? Given that Roy was not involved, Joe infringed upon the COE, not only as a member, but as an ESOP committee member.

Seems to me justice has not been dispensed equally nor to set standards befitting a so called self regulating organization.

Because sometimes the words from a friend go down easier.
Unfortunately Roy thought it more important to defend you from the ESOP than to tell you the truth about your reprehensible actions.

Your lack of justice claims are simply ridiculous. Anyone can call you or anyone else and speak in what ever manner he deems fitting. Your continual spin on the events changes nothing.

[Raymond E. Wand]

Originally Posted by mlarson

Because sometimes the words from a friend go down easier.
Unfortunately Roy thought it more important to defend you from the ESOP than to tell you the truth about your reprehensible actions.

Your lack of justice claims are simply ridiculous. Anyone can call you or anyone else and speak in what ever manner he deems fitting. Your continual spin on the events changes nothing.

If words go down easier from a friend then their would have been no need for Joe F. to use the tone and language he did with Roy. Absolutely none. Further friends don't call up friends or colleagues and use the tone and language Joe F. did with Roy.

Are you calling Roy a liar? Joe shook up Roy pretty bad over something Joe F. had no business doing in the first place given his so called level of professionalism.

Of course how would you ever know about professionalism when you have never been a member of any other professional association which has bylaws, and proper procedures set up to protect members from the likes you!

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by mlarson

Because sometimes the words from a friend go down easier.
Unfortunately Roy thought it more important to defend you from the ESOP than to tell you the truth about your reprehensible actions.

Your lack of justice claims are simply ridiculous. Anyone can call you or anyone else and speak in what ever manner he deems fitting. Your continual spin on the events changes nothing.

So strange how you call this (" reprehensible actions ") and when others have done it you have said nothing .
Sorry But to me that is a (" reprehensible actions "). That seems to say to me you are two faced Chastise one person and say nothing about another who does exactly the same thing.
Shame on Mr. Larson.

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by mlarson

Your continual spin on the events changes nothing.

You may not be aware that NACHI is not the only association to throw this bum out for unethical behavior.

He belonged to another association that kicked him out for lying about being retired. After getting canned from them, he came to NACHI and used this message board as his means of attacking them with lies, much like he does us now.

Of course, they ... (ahem)....violated their "by-laws" and were wrong when they threw his skinny little ***** out as well. Every Ethics Committee who rejects him is wrong. You know the story.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

I just received a reputation and the spelling was poor .
If I was not bald the things I was called would curl my hair.


Nice to see (" Frank M. Carrio (fcarrio)") still has a sense of Humor

[Raymond E. Wand]

James

What are you on? I am a member in good standing with OAHI, otherwise I would not be able to have their logo on my website and state I am a RHI!

So how can I be kicked out?

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by rcooke

So strange. .....That seems to say to me you are two faced Chastise one person and say nothing about another who does exactly the same thing.
Shame on Mr. Larson.

Strange that you think I should chastise everyone that YOU claim does the same thing.

Roy, why didn't you just hang up the phone?

You come here and shame youself by your silly posts and further distance yourself from those who used to be your friends.

Now that is truly sad.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by mlarson

Strange that you think I should chastise everyone that YOU claim does the same thing.

Roy, why didn't you just hang up the phone?

You come here and shame youself by your silly posts and further distance yourself from those who used to be your friens.

Now that is truly sad.

Gee I hope you never get called for jury duty on a real trial.
A closed mind like you have would destroy the jury system.
having a closed mind sure shows you have lost your reasonings .
you would give every one a life in prison.
Glad you volunteered to be on the ESOP you would fit right in they loved closed minds who lack the idea of fair play .
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[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by rcooke

Gee I hope you never get called for jury duty on a real trial.
A closed mind like you have would destroy the jury system.
having a closed mind sure shows you have lost your reasonings .
you would give every one a life in prison.
Glad you volunteered to be on the ESOP you would fit right in they loved closed minds who lack the idea of fair play .
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Now, just who has lost their mind Roy.

I have never volunteered for the ESOP.

My mind is only closed to the nonsense you post.

My reasoning is intact thank you..

If selected for jury duty I would examine the facts and come to a decision based on the facts presented. I think you would do well to do the same.

I had no part of the decision to boot Ray but I do agree with them in this case. I may not in others but who knows for sure.

How's that for an open mind?

[bjones5]

Mike...........You're wasting your time. Roy can do no wrong, ESOP is out to get him, yadda yadda yadda.
Roy......my statement to you in the other ESOP thread you started still stands.

Roy and Ray....... Please try to be a little more precise in your statements about ESOP. Making blanket statements about an entire committee only damages YOUR credibility, not ours. If you have a problem with one or two members of a committee, direct your comments to them.

Your co-operation in this would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by bjones5

Mike...........You're wasting your time. Roy can do no wrong, ESOP is out to get him, yadda yadda yadda.
Roy......my statement to you in the other ESOP thread you started still stands.

Roy and Ray....... Please try to be a little more precise in your statements about ESOP. Making blanket statements about an entire committee only damages YOUR credibility, not ours. If you have a problem with one or two members of a committee, direct your comments to them.

Your co-operation in this would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,

You too should look in the mirror and ask your self and why you condone a kangaroo decision.
I have not defended what happened to Ray I am disappointed how it was handled.
It was far from fair and proper .
No where in our society is there room for Kangaroo decisions.
Now tell me why you choose to ignore Bill Mullens flagrant violation of the NACHI BYLAWS .
Tell me again why the ESOP does only want to hold up certain parts of the SOP.
If you choose to pick on one and ignore others Shame on you .

[Raymond E. Wand]

Brian

The ESOP destroyed their own credibility when they decided to conspire!

I am still waiting for the ESOP to explain the difference what I did to what Joe F. did when he crossed the line and breached the very rules he enforces when he called Roy. Morally, and ethically bankrupt is my blanket statement about the ESOP.

Tell ya what, what'da say I call you and light into you with a diatribe and foul language in order to get you to change Joe F. mind.

Thanks for your enlightening take on the matter.