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Old 4/10/08, 7:21 PM
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Ray. You dont get it. Except for you and Roy, no one really cares to do anything other than rid you from this message board.

You refuse to accept any decision that falls against you. Whether presented to your liking, in the manner you wish or not, the outcome would have likely been the same. This appears to be a trend. It's the world according to Garp, I'm afraid. When things dont fall your way, everyone else is wrong. It matters not the subject. the outcome is always the same.

To this very day, your continual rants only serve to convince those who may have doubted ESOPs decision at one time, to reverse that doubt and affirm that ESOPs decision on the matter was both timely and justified. You make ESOPs point with each rant.

I sincerely hope you are able to recognize residential flaws more clearly than you can recognize the flaws of your strategy and actions with regard to this matter.

Dude, get it through your head; you are out of the org. For someone who says he doesnt care, your actions and posts say something quite different.

I like the handle Achillez over on that "other" board. Very original. Not

When a poster over here coins a phrase, it looke pretty obvious when an anonymous poster "over there" uses the same words.

Sad, really.

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Old 4/10/08, 7:27 PM
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Thanks for the red Mario, and thank you for signing it.

The ESOP ????? 4/10/08 1:46 PM Not nice>>>>Mario

Mario do you condone the actions of your fellow committee members on the ESOP? I would like to know your thoughts on if it was okay for Joe F. to breach the rules when he called Roy and let into him, when Roy had absolutely nothing to do with anything.?

Do you condone Frank Carrio for breaching the COE he has promised to uphold?

Do you condone the intimidating emails to Roy from your fellows on the ESOP? Isn't intimidation a breach of the COE?

Do you condone outright lies being spread by one of your colleagues on the ESOP?

Mario, I think you need to show some just cause why as a ESOP member you remain silent about this very flagarant, known breaches of which you too promised to uphold when you joined the ESOP.
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Old 4/10/08, 8:01 PM
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Ray,

No rules were breached, except in your mind. Get over it.

You piss on the concept of due process, unless it serves your purpose; when it doesnt you cry foul. You piss on this association, its programs, its benefits, and its efforts at each turn. You say that NACHI and CMI is a fraud. You should be very proud of your opinions and accomplishments.

Then you wonder why a red carpet isnt rolled out for you. Behold the mighty Raymond. All bow at his presence and knowledge. Phooey.

Not the latest.... Let's see; Mario was good enough, smart enough, and honest enough... right up to the time he was invited to join ESOP with Brian Jones. Now he lower than crab sh*t.

Why is that, exactly? Oh yeah... I almost forgot. He tried to stick up for you and Roy and got slapped down for his efforts, because he attempted to talk some SENSE; he DARED to defy your logic.

Right.

He's suddenly no good anymore because he sees the truth. It may not be your truth, but it is the whole truth, nevertheless.

You speak to due process, justice, and fairness. How ironic. You wouldnt know these concepts if they hit you in the face.

I am convinced that the choice to add Mario and Brian to the ranks of ESOP was the right choice. I stand by that decision, knowing that we may not always agree, but that both gentlemen are level headed, fair minded, and independent thinkers.

Dont like it?

Too bad.
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Old 4/10/08, 8:06 PM
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Joe

I am only here to expose what can only be described as a circus. The ESOP has demonstrated admirably just how far it will go to expunge those people who they feel are a threat to their rein.

None of you have any credibility because you all continue to flaunt the rules blatantly and for all to see. Right from your inexcusable phone call to Roy to overlooking blatant breaches by Frank and James.

Your smart Joe, but not that smart when it comes to making excuses and your pious nature are on display for anyone intelligent enough to see.

Keep pumping it out Joe, you don't need any help from Roy or me you have your ESOP committee members to thank for that, they do a great job protecting you and each other.

I think you should apologize to Roy for your disregard and breach of the rules.

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Old 4/10/08, 8:07 PM
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Joe

Why don't you resign from your position on the ESOP and stay with teaching, something you know something about. And have you seen a copy of the bylaws, surely you must be familiar with them having come from a corporate background, or is that all bull too?
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Old 4/10/08, 8:09 PM
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This kinda reminds me of Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman!
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Old 4/10/08, 8:13 PM
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Hey Kenny,

Long time no hear from. How's it goin eh?
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Old 4/10/08, 8:16 PM
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He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors - Thomas Jefferson - Founding Father

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson

Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts.
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Old 4/10/08, 8:24 PM
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Are we having fun yet?

Visit this site for fun
http://www.gogetforum.com/provincialcfihi.html

I also want to thank Frank Carrio for signing onto the above site.
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Old 4/11/08, 12:25 AM
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Apparently, someone with at least one more live brain cell than whoever it was that asked the question.

By the way, here is the referenced link... http://www.nachi.org/forum/showthrea...=25422&page=11

Makes me proud.....

So... how can I help you?

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Old 4/11/08, 5:53 AM
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Are we having fun yet?

Visit this site for fun
http://www.gogetforum.com/provincialcfihi.html

I also want to thank Frank Carrio for signing onto the above site.
Since there is more than one Frank Carrio in this world I gave you the benefit of the doubt. I did not think that you would be so stupid as to put my name on your website as "A Member".

I was disgusted to see that not only are you using my name but also my Website on your "Bulletin Board".


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I demand that you delete my name and website information immediately!
  • You posted my information without my knowledge and without my permission!
I do not want to be associated with your psychotic actions in any way shape or form.



Signed, Frank Carrio, CMI
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Old 4/11/08, 7:40 AM
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I do not want to be associated with your psychotic actions in any way shape or form.
Frank:
Up pretty early this morning or couldn't sleep?

Looking in the mirror early today and this just came out?

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Old 4/11/08, 7:54 AM
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It is really sad how NACHI allows mental midgets from other countries to pollute our message board with garbage like this.

Freedom of speech is one thing, but these kind of personal attacks and disparagements.....by our guests....have been tolerated for too long.

This is a message board for NACHI and its guests....yet we allow ethically challenged liars and other vermin to leave posts that are intentionally designed to do harm to members.

At one time, before people like Wand and a few of these other idiots began to molest us....the free and open board was a positive thing. But to allow these obviously mentally ill people to scatter their hate and slander has made NACHI their tool.

I'm with you, Frank. Something has to be done.

I don't care about the criticisms aimed at the committee. We have been able to ignore them for years and continue with our business as usual. I am talking about the slanderous and libelous remarks that NACHI allows....under its copyright....to be Googled and spread to the world pertaining to individuals.

The psychotic minds behind the hate cannot be helped, but NACHI has a duty to clean the bottom of the bird cage every once in a while, IMO.



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Old 4/11/08, 9:00 AM
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The psychotic minds behind the hate cannot be helped, but NACHI has a duty to clean the bottom of the bird cage every once in a while, IMO.
James,

Since when have you had a humble opinion, most are not humble and verge on psychotic.

AND WHAT ABOUT THOSE TERRIBLE PYSCHOTIC MESSAGE YOU AND FRANKIE CRAYOLA CARRIO SENT TO ROY COOKE?

AND WHAT ABOUT THE ACTIONS JOE. F. COMMITTED AGAINST ROY WHEN HE CALLED HIM AND BREACHED GOOD TASTE, ETHICS, AND MORALITY?

Yes James Freedom of speech is one thing, but these kind of personal attacks and disparagements.....by some on the ESOP....have been tolerated for too long!

This is a message board for NACHI and its guests....yet we allow ethically challenged ESOP liars and other vermin to send messages that are intentionally designed to do harm to other members.

At one time, before people like Bushart, Carrio, and Farsetta and a few of these other idiots on the ESOP began to molest us....the free and open board was a positive thing. But to allow these obviously mentally ill people to scatter their hate and slander has made NACHI their tool.

I'm with you, James. Something has to be done.

I don't care about the criticisms aimed at me. But have been able to ignore most of them for years and continue with my business as usual. I am talking about the slanderous and libelous remarks that NACHI allows....under its copyright....to be Googled and spread to the world pertaining to individuals by the ESOP!

The psychotic minds behind the ESOP hate cannot be helped, but NACHI has a duty to clean the bottom of the bird cage every once in a while, IMO and should ensure the current ESOP is disband!

Yep James I agree!

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Old 4/11/08, 9:52 AM
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Hey Roy Cooke Sr.

You can go here and post all those intimidating email messages you rec'd from some of the ESOP members, and not be in contravention of the NACHI rules because you didn't post them on NACHI!

I think its time NACHI Members had their eyes opened to see just how morally bankrupt, and ethically challenged some of the ESOP members are. Maybe they can kick each others arses out on the street! Then we can see who are the liars are amongst us.

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