Gasoline Prices

[Kevin Davis]

Everyone wants to be the King Of The Hill what we need to all do is sit around the bottom of the hill and figure out a way we can all coexist on somewhat of a level playing feild , look as bad as gas prices are hurting my wallet we here in the states have it alot better than some places . Industrialization has taken away jobs ,we've come full circle yea in the beginning it was great everyone working makng money now thats not so . Technology is leaving alot of people in very long lines.

[Doug Edwards, CMI]

Kevin,
Just curious but have you ever been outside the US?

[Rick Maday]

Originally Posted by mkyriacou

2005 Canadian Average Pump Price
Data Source: MJ Ervin & Associates
Petro-Canada Refining & Marketing Profit

Here you go Richard!

Thanks for the info.

35%
I knew that your "free" health care was too good to be true!

http://www.api.org/statistics/fueltaxes/

Originally Posted by above site

As of July 1, 2008, the average amount of tax imposed on a gallon of gasoline sold in the United States was 49.4 cents per gallon, up 2.4 cents from the January 2008 report.

That puts us at about 12% (at $4.00/gal)

[Rick Maday]

Originally Posted by Kevin Davis

Industrialization has taken away jobs.

Hmmm, I thought by definition industrialization (development) would create jobs?

[Mario A. Kyriacou, CHI]

Originally Posted by Kevin Davis

Everyone wants to be the King Of The Hill what we need to all do is sit around the bottom of the hill and figure out a way we can all coexist on somewhat of a level playing feild , look as bad as gas prices are hurting my wallet we here in the states alot better than some places . Industrialization has taken away jobs ,we've come full circle yea in the beginning it was great everyone working makng money now thats not so . Technology is leaving alot of people in very long lines.

If the field was level, you would cry the blues each and every time you shopped at Wall-Mart!

[Rick Maday]

Originally Posted by Kevin Davis

Technology is leaving alot of people in very long lines.

Without Technology we would still be getting 2-3 MPG in our cars.

[Kevin Davis]

industrialization doesnt mean what bit used to. When a new factory or plant opens up it doesnt necessarily bring more jobs usually just more products everything is ran with alot less man power the bottom line is what is most important and trust me its not mine or yours that these companies are worried about. Thats my slant look you guys running your own show great job im sure you worked hard and got to a comfortable place , but its getting hharder to do that.

[Rick Maday]

After deciding which post to quote...

Originally Posted by Kevin Davis

industrialization doesnt mean what bit used to. When a new factory or plant opens up it doesnt necessarily bring more jobs usually just more products everything is ran with alot less man power the bottom line is what is most important and trust me its not mine or yours that these companies are worried about. Thats my slant look you guys running your own show great job im sure you worked hard and got to a comfortable place , but its getting hharder to do that.

Kevin,

A new factory (your example) will bring in how many new jobs? The answer is certainly not zero. Someone has to at least turn the machines on.

Who designed that factory?
Provided materials for that factory?
Who builds that factory?
Sweeps the floor?
Maintains the machines?

Yes, many jobs are now automated, but jobs were also created - jobs to develop, build and maintain the machinery that is doing what a human used to do.

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by Kevin Davis

industrialization doesnt mean what bit used to. When a new factory or plant opens up it doesnt necessarily bring more jobs usually just more products everything is ran with alot less man power the bottom line is what is most important and trust me its not mine or yours that these companies are worried about. Thats my slant look you guys running your own show great job im sure you worked hard and got to a comfortable place , but its getting hharder to do that.

Don't take it personal Kevin.

Let's hear your ideas but don't expect everyone to accept them without rational argument.

[Kevin Davis]

humans used to do it all without as much need for fuel is the point .

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by Kevin Davis

humans used to do it all without as much need for fuel is the point .

Would we be able to feed the world or engage in commerce without "fuel"?

[Kevin Davis]

I enjoy this conversation it is something that we all need to start thinking of big changes I think though . I have kids and dont know what the world will be like in 20 years when there grown its kinda scary.

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by Kevin Davis

I enjoy this conversation it is something that we all need to start thinking of big changes I think though . I have kids and dont know what the world will be like in 20 years when there grown its kinda scary.

It is scary( I think it always has been) but what are you concerned about the most?

[Kevin Davis]

We have put our selves into that situation where we have to have the fuel now its not an option your right ,without it we would not be able to do those things without fuel .But as i said thats because we've come full circle.

[Kevin Davis]

Im conscerned that we will end up with two classes the wealthy and the poor