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Old 7/10/08, 6:21 PM
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We have put our selves into that situation where we have to have the fuel now its not an option your right ,without it we would not be able to do those things without fuel .But as i said thats because we've come full circle.
Since it not likely our fuel needs will diminish anytime in either of our lifetimes what do you think the answers might look like?



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Old 7/10/08, 6:23 PM
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humans used to do it all without as much need for fuel is the point .
Actually, probably less fuel is used because people don't need to drive to the factory.

I too have young children. I am concerned that Mario's $600+/gal of gas may be a reality for them. Of course that's an exageration, but its a concern that we haven't adressed as a nation and those in power continue to do nothing.

Side note - read an article the other day about Jimmy Carter (sorry Mike )
and his thoughts on our country's energy (oil) dependancy back in the 70's. Boy does he look like a visionary now.
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Old 7/10/08, 6:24 PM
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Im conscerned that we will end up with two classes the wealthy and the poor
Do the poor have a better chance of being less poor because of "industrialization" ?

If they produce needed goods, doesn't that increase their lot in life?

If they are allowed to keep the fruits of their labor would they not benefit?



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its not whether theyll dimenish but become another burden for the regular working class man to have to worry about, It already has look i work in construction I am stilll working but thousands arent . And it has alot to do with fuel .
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Old 7/10/08, 6:26 PM
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its not whether theyll dimenish but become another burden for the regular working class man to have to worry about, It already has look i work in construction I am stilll working but thousands arent . And it has alot to do with fuel .
Why have fuel costs become so high in your opinion?



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Old 7/10/08, 6:27 PM
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I too have young children. I am concerned that Mario's $600+/gal of gas may be a reality for them.
Not going to happen!





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Your not opposed to a two class society????
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Your not opposed to a two class society????
I'm opposed to those who will not give freedom to their people to make their own way in the world.

Look around at the worlds poor and see how their governments restrain freedom.



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I'm not sure why gas is so high in my area jobs are dropping left and right so i wouldnt agree with the supply and demand arguement.
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well we agree on one issue i guess
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Old 7/10/08, 6:33 PM
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I'm not sure why gas is so high in my area jobs are dropping left and right so i wouldnt agree with the supply and demand arguement.
Gas is high all over.

Why don't you "buy the supply and demand argument"?
Do you think something else is going on?

Kevin, if you use the quote button it will be less confusing to tell which post you are responding too.



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Gas is high all over.

Why don't you "buy the supply and demand argument"?
Do you think something else is going on?

Kevin, if you use the quote button it will be less confusing to tell which post you are responding too.
sorry new to site i really dont know its like there trying to break us down or something trust me when you see people losing there houses and families fallling apart over finances its kinda hard not to get upset
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If you are getting your news off the television, do yourself a favor and STOP. It is the worst source of truthful information in the world. Conditions are not nearly as bad as they are making it out to be. Some people are losing their homes because they did not qualify for the loan when they got it. It is always about choices people make. MOST people make piss poor choices all their lives.
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Old 7/10/08, 6:47 PM
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sorry new to site i really dont know its like there trying to break us down or something trust me when you see people losing there houses and families fallling apart over finances its kinda hard not to get upset
I'm sure that hard to watch.

We have lived in an era of easy credit and inflating home prices and too often people sucked the equity out of their inflated property value and lived on it or spent money they really should not have.

They were helped by lenders that foolishly lent money to some less than credit worthy borrowers.

It's always hard to lose a job and unless one plans ahead for that they will be in a precarious position when it happens.

Some people bought homes well above their means on the wager that the value of the house would grow fast enough to kep taking some equity out of it. All good things come to an end and now it;s time to pay the piper so to speak.



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Old 7/10/08, 6:56 PM
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I go into houses all the time where the home is literally a dump but they got the biggest flat screen TV they could fit into the room, PSP consoles all over the house, thousands of dollars worth of DVDs and a 40 thousand dollar vehicle in the gravel driveway. If someone has to have a new pair of shoes it throws the whole budget out of kilter. Too many people are living or should say borrowing above their means to pay it. Yet, the banks keep giving them credit cards and loaning them money on the equity in their homes or land. I do not know how many mobile homes I have done inspections on because people are taking out second mortgages on them or getting reverse mortgages. It is insane.
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