Gasoline Prices

[rmaday]

Originally Posted by Kevin Davis

Without industrialisation sure we wouldnt be ale to have this discussion right now we might be sitting around a fire or in bed getting ready for a long day of hand plowing some feilds,but we would not be dependant on anyone but ourselves. God forbid anything ever happens to send us back a few decades because if some catastophic occurance were to happen there would be alot of hungry people.

Seems you'd prefer life, not a few decades back (70's 60's 50's) but perhaps, a Centruy back (1908?). No fuel, self reliant, grow/raise what you eat. And Cubs World Champions! Utopia!

No need to worry about fuel, your fellow man, life expectancy, disease, infant mortality, medical advances, famine...

The problems we are faced with now did not simply develop in the last 2-3 years. It was (and continues to be) a lack of forsight from many people.

[rmaday]

Originally Posted by dedwards

What personal remarks are you referring to.

I was wondering same.

[Doug Edwards, CMI]

I was speaking in generalizations but I must have hit a nerve. If I had known it was just about being able to come here and whine or get some sympathy I would not have wasted my time.

[Kevin Davis]

Originally Posted by dedwards

I was speaking in generalizations but I must have hit a nerve. If I had known it was just about being able to come here and whine or get some sympathy I would not have wasted my time.

dont bother than because you havent offered much to the conversation

[Mario A. Kyriacou, CHI]

Originally Posted by Kevin Davis

dont bother than because you havent offered much to the conversation

I'm no expert, but you sound depressed brother!
Stop worrying about things you have absolutely no control over.

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by mkyriacou

I'm no expert, but you sound depressed brother!
Stop worrying about things you have absolutely no control over.

Loosing a job will do that to you.

[Doug Edwards, CMI]

Kevin,
Based on your comments thus far I wouldn't be tossing around the word "ignorant" so freely. You appear to be the one who is ignorant or at least uninformed. You do not get to come here and decide who can or can not participate in a discussion. If you don't get what you want here in the way of sympathy I suggest you go find a liberal blog. There you can find solace and support from like minded weenies. You still haven't pointed out what personal comments you are referring to.

[klott]

Originally Posted by mkyriacou

I disagree.
Empty nester's have been selling their monster homes in the suburbs and moving to Toronto [inner city] selling their vehicles and using public transportation to get to and from work or play. That's the trend right now in Toronto. I have noticed a decline in traffic since gas prices have skyrocketed to $139/litre. I would pay double that amount to be able to drive to an inspection without traffic!

Mario, there is absolutely no reason why Canadians should have to pay so much for fuel, if they have enough to export it, then your citizens should be taken care of first. In the Opec nations, which sell oil to everyone else, gas prices less than $.50 a gallon. It proves that supply and demand arenot the reason for high prices, it is purely greed. Europe has been paying more than we are now for the last 20 years, why? Because they did not alternative choices, therefore they have been taken advantage of.

[rmaday]

Originally Posted by klott

It proves that supply and demand arenot the reason for high prices, it is purely greed.

Who's greed? The Canadian 35% tax doesn't help keep prices down (for gas).

[Kevin Davis]

Originally Posted by dedwards

Kevin,
Based on your comments thus far I wouldn't be tossing around the word "ignorant" so freely. You appear to be the one who is ignorant or at least uninformed. You do not get to come here and decide who can or can not participate in a discussion. If you don't get what you want here in the way of sympathy I suggest you go find a liberal blog. There you can find solace and support from like minded weenies. You still haven't pointed out what personal comments you are referring to.

just agreeing with you on your point of maybe you shouldnt have bothered , and please tell me how much of an ignorant weenie i am. thats all your posts have been , you dont seem to have any real veiws you just know you dont agree with mine which is fine by me . Im here stating my point of veiws and being liberal has nothing to do with it , does me being liberal and you being conservative change the price of fuel. So when i say ignorant im refering to the way you seem to generalize everything. Im assuming you think all liberals are weenies is that not an ignorant comment. please enlighten me because like i said before you really havent offered much thus far.

[Kevin Davis]

Originally Posted by dedwards

Kevin,
Based on your comments thus far I wouldn't be tossing around the word "ignorant" so freely. You appear to be the one who is ignorant or at least uninformed. You do not get to come here and decide who can or can not participate in a discussion. If you don't get what you want here in the way of sympathy I suggest you go find a liberal blog. There you can find solace and support from like minded weenies. You still haven't pointed out what personal comments you are referring to.

One more point if i might add ,yes I am liberal no problem with me shouldnt be one for you either. I unfortunately prefer someone to diagree with me on certain issues makes for more interesting conversation and in the end you usually meet somewhere in a place in between ,but you just want to bash you dont discuss or offer any of your veiws. That is what holds us back . I dont know where your from but the whole democrat republican issue is obsurd . I'm all for choices but lets get to the issues for once.

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by klott

Mario, there is absolutely no reason why Canadians should have to pay so much for fuel, if they have enough to export it, then your citizens should be taken care of first. In the Opec nations, which sell oil to everyone else, gas prices less than $.50 a gallon. It proves that supply and demand arenot the reason for high prices, it is purely greed. Europe has been paying more than we are now for the last 20 years, why? Because they did not alternative choices, therefore they have been taken advantage of.

Ken,
I suppose that possible if the Canadian government owned the oil company like Hugo Chavez's Venezuela.

Let time I check Canada was still a free country with property rights and everything.

Tell you what Ken, How about you give me 10 inspections for $10 ea.

Deal?

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by Kevin Davis

One more point if i might add ,yes I am liberal no problem with me shouldnt be one for you either. I unfortunately prefer someone to diagree with me on certain issues makes for more interesting conversation and in the end you usually meet somewhere in a place in between ,but you just want to bash you dont discuss or offer any of your veiws. That is what holds us back . I dont know where your from but the whole democrat republican issue is obsurd . I'm all for choices but lets get to the issues for once.

Kevin, thank you for at least admitting you are a Liberal.

That fine.

Now stop being so sensitive and tell us what the solutions are to the down turn in the construction industry?

Why are the Liberal solutions the correct ones?

[klott]

Kevin, there will always be a gap between the haves and the have-nots, but it is not because of over population, industrialization or a government conspiracy to oppress poor people. Sure technology cost jobs, on things like assembly lines at factories, which once needed people and there hands to put things together, all that has changed is the type of jobs, the manual labor jobs have changed to High Tech jobs, the same class of people who used to work on assembly lines, now have more education and are designing the machines which do those jobs. It is the people who are unwilling to change or adapt to the ever changing times, that are left behind. The problem is not because there are more people in the U.S. now, the problem is because many factors have caused many of these needed jobs to go where there are large numbers of people who will do the same jobs much cheaper. My brother recently sold a Granite business in Elberton, Ga. he told me once that it was cheaper to ship a headstone to Mexico for engaving and back, than it was to have it done in Elberton. I watched a show last night on China, the number one car, Chinese want to own are Buicks, black ones, so G.M has a plant over there to build them, Ford does too, Both companies said that as soon as the Chinese plants can build their Autos to get past our Emission Standards, they will build all of them and export them to the U.S. Bottom line jobs change and move around to different parts of the globe, but they will never just dissappear. We are hurting, but China and Russia are thriving. Communism is doing better than it ever has, so it looks like we are losing more than just jobs. But do not be deceived, there is no equality in Communism. Be careful, I can hear it in some of your speech.

[Doug Edwards, CMI]

When you can discuss "the issues" and make a salient point without getting all emotional I will come back. Till then, have fun. When you have lived a little longer and had a few more of life' experiences I suspect you will change you opinion about a lot of things. Stay safe on your job because you obviously need it. If I disagreed with anything you said it was your comments about certain "facts" based on nothing but your opinion. The other posts of mine were for no one in particular. If you were offended I submit it was that the shoes fit too well and you saw yourself in them and took offend when none was intended.