Gasoline Prices

[klott]

Originally Posted by mlarson

They are Ken. They are even higher because of the added taxes but the underlining cost are about the same as anywhere else.

It's even higher in Europe where they tax it even more.

Why? They have more than they can use, or they would not be exporting it. I know about the taxes, ripoff in my eyes. Alaskans don't pay income tax, because of the revenue generated by Prudhoe Bay, more than made up the difference, actually, every Alaskan got money paid to them because of it, at least this is what I was told by Alaskans when I was there. Why couldn't Canada do the same for their Citizens, they have less people than Califiornia,(Not including illegals) does.

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by klott

Why? They have more than they can use, or they would not be exporting it. I know about the taxes, ripoff in my eyes. Alaskans don't pay income tax, because of the revenue generated by Prudhoe Bay, more than made up the difference, actually, every Alaskan got money paid to them because of it, at least this is what I was told by Alaskans when I was there. Why couldn't Canada do the same for their Citizens, they have less people than Califiornia,(Not including illegals) does.

The taxes are levied to fund all the government goodies like universal health care.

Just because they have more oil than they can use they should should sell it cheaper?

[Kevin Davis]

Originally Posted by rmaday

Kevin,

I don't know why Dougs earlier posts got you so riled up. I read them all again and up until you told him "not to bother" they were all relevant to the topic, not aimed at anyone in particular and reflect much of what is hapening all across the country.

Not riled but his generalization that everyone in financial distress was caused from them buying more than they can afford, he was basically saying young people in particular are the cause of the issues were having, Yes i am a younger person I pay my bills feed my kids and supply insurance for my son and a step daughter , am I some great person for doing so no, but Ive had friends with excellent jobs working for car manufacturers been told well we got a job if can move here they move there pick up their lives to just be laid off a few years later. So if they went out and tried to provide their families with some of the better thing s in life and then turned around and couldnt do that anymore how is that their own faultg , and why are such a cheerleader are you two business partners or something

[Kevin Davis]

Originally Posted by mlarson

I would point out that Democrats/Liberals love government and want to to be dependent on them.

The sad fact is that too many Republicans have forgotten that they once stood for individualism and freedom and have now joined the Liberals to continually grow the size and intrusiveness of the government.

The dirty little secret is that it's you that is largely is responsible for your success or failure. The government can only get in the way and is doing that far too much.

Don't worry about a two class society. Worry about your own family and help others when you can. Government is the most inefficient way to spread the wealth around.

I do agree alot with that .Me being a liberal minded person ,I am however neither democrat or republican . The government puts its nose wherever it smells the greenbacks.

[klott]

Originally Posted by rmaday

You mean the Billions that are being spent on the Presidential campaign could be put to better use?

I think it should be law that politicians can only soilcit,( No typo soilcit= slang for ***** on Citizens) votes on the internet, one free page for desrciption, pages to lie for a $50 million Fee per page. All campaign fees used to pay off federal deficit or provide Free Healthcare. Love the lastest rage, Funds Raisers to pay off the money wasted by the loser!

[Michael Larson]

Ken, now you too have lost me.

[Doug Edwards]

Kevin
Thank you!! You have just proved my point. But go back and read my posts again. I never said "everybody" and never would because that is the way liberals think and speak. You decided to take umbridge with my posts but failed to do the same with all the others that said basically the same thing. Like I said, my comments hit too close to home and you got your little delicate psyche bent. Grow the hell up and quit thinking the government or everyone else owes you a soft cushy life. You have obviously made decisions early on that are now crowding in on you and you came here to snivel and whine. Sorry to pee on your parade. You are a weenie.

[rmaday]

Originally Posted by Kevin Davis

Not riled but his generalization that everyone in financial distress was caused from them buying more than they can afford,

I don't think he said everyone.
But it is a fact that if you buy more than you can afford you will be in financial distress (I tell my wife that ALL the time )
That is a major cause of peoples financial woes.

Originally Posted by Kevin Davis

he was basically saying young people in particular are the cause of the issues were having,

I took it as people need to be responsible for their own lot in life. Young and old. It would be the same for someone facing retirement who didn't save a penny their entire working life.

Originally Posted by Kevin Davis

Yes i am a younger person I pay my bills feed my kids and supply insurance for my son and a step daughter , am I some great person for doing so no,

Actually, you are. Many choose not to.

Originally Posted by Kevin Davis

but Ive had friends with excellent jobs working for car manufacturers been told well we got a job if can move here they move there pick up their lives to just be laid off a few years later.

And I wouldn't wish that on anyone, but it does happen.

Originally Posted by Kevin Davis

So if they went out and tried to provide their families with some of the better thing s in life and then turned around and couldnt do that anymore how is that their own faultg ,

Maybe not their fault they got laid off. But, had they saved 6-12 months of living expenses, they'd be in a much better spot. That is their responsibility.

Originally Posted by Kevin Davis

and why are such a cheerleader are you two business partners or something

No,
I wouldn't know Doug if he were sitting right next to me. However his posts were spot on IMO and I think you were out of line telling him "not to bother".

But now that you mention it....

The Owl & The Acorn. hmmm...

[rmaday]

McCain's aide who said we were becoming a nation of whiners, while not PC (and it will cost him his current job) was also spot on.

It's always someoe elses fault (lawyers love that).
There is no personal responsibility anymore.

[Kevin Davis]

Originally Posted by dedwards

Kevin
Thank you!! You have just proved my point. But go back and read my posts again. I never said "everybody" and never would because that is the way liberals think and speak. You decided to take umbridge with my posts but failed to do the same with all the others that said basically the same thing. Like I said, my comments hit too close to home and you got your little delicate psyche bent. Grow the hell up and quit thinking the government or everyone else owes you a soft cushy life. You have obviously made decisions early on that are now crowding in on you and you came here to snivel and whine. Sorry to pee on your parade. You are a weenie.

The problem with all your posts to me is that sitting behind your computer you feel like a big man to try a talk down to me trust me if we put a group of sniveling little working class liberals in a room with you much superior ,in every way, conservatives in the same room and you would take that tone . I can guarantee we wouldnt be the ones sniveling . When and where have i said anyone owes me a thing all my points are valid , and you dont make any points.

[Kevin Davis]

Originally Posted by rmaday

I don't think he said everyone.
But it is a fact that if you buy more than you can afford you will be in financial distress (I tell my wife that ALL the time )
That is a major cause of peoples financial woes.


I took it as people need to be responsible for their own lot in life. Young and old. It would be the same for someone facing retirement who didn't save a penny their entire working life.



Actually, you are. Many choose not to.




And I wouldn't wish that on anyone, but it does happen.


Maybe not their fault they got laid off. But, had they saved 6-12 months of living expenses, they'd be in a much better spot. That is their responsibility.


No,
I wouldn't know Doug if he were sitting right next to me. However his posts were spot on IMO and I think you were out of line telling him "not to bother".

But now that you mention it....

The Owl & The Acorn. hmmm...

telling him not to bother you mean the one time i agreed i was wrong . this is getting funny

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by rmaday

McCain's aide who said we were becoming a nation of whiners, while not PC (and it will cost him his current job) was also spot on.

It's always someoe elses fault (lawyers love that).
There is no personal responsibility anymore.

Here are all the video links to Gramm and the reaction.
http://www.nachi.org/forum/showthread.php?t=30645

[Michael Larson]

Kevin, are you an Obama supporter?

[rmaday]

Sorry, things started to deteriorate not after the "don't bother" comment, but rather this (which preceeded it)...

Originally Posted by Kevin Davis

losing your job is not usually a descision and yes i agree alot of people do put themselves in bad situations,I never watch the news I work in the new construction industry so i see it first hand ,you keep making personal remarks as though you know someone through a thread online a very ignorant thing to do.

With this you were way off base. Nothing was personal (up to this point) nor was anything posted ignorant.

[Kevin Davis]

Originally Posted by mlarson

Kevin, are you an Obama supporter?

You know he sells himself very good ,do i necessarily trust him 100% no.