Good for Alberta recognition...what about Ontario?

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

I see you think I need to give out all what I know then Give up and throw in the towel .
I ask you the same as I asked Doug what have YOU Done for the Home Inspection industry .
I have tried to communicate with Bill and others and just get called a liar .
I have not seen you two Give out or help out very much .
Sorry I stand by my past records .
I have not tried to make money of our inspectors .
I am completely removed from any profit making endeavors .
I have nothing to sell and do help in many ways .
I can not say that about many directors in OAHI/CAHPI or PHPIO.
I intend to carry on Helping this industry and am open to all ideas and info to help all Canadians .
If you have a better solution then please jump in and do your thing I would love to see a great future in Canada , But Liars ,cheaters Like Bill Mullen will not get help from me .

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by smay

How is it that there is no rhetorical response of any kind from Nick?

My bet is that you won't hear from Nick until after the special interests are successful in purchasing a law from those in government who sell such things. He knows, as many of us do, how licensing laws have always proven to be harmful to consumers.

Once the law has been bought and paid for by others to advance their own agendas and interests ... Nick will ensure that CMIs and InterNACHI education continue to help turn the chicken crap law into a more digestable chicken salad.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by yolhovsky

Roy, it seems to me that Doug is talking about YOU referring to other people as members of "secret society", who are unwilling to share any info. I guess the info was revealed and explained many times before but was not accepted by YOU. Doug is also a member of NACHI. So am I. We are all business owners and belonging to one association or another is purely personal decision. Some choose to belong to a few associations, the others do not belong to any. This should not be deemed as being in someone's camp. And the statements like yours about things going behind the scenes but not revealing any info make people wonder who belongs to a "secret society" here?

Yuri
And the statements like yours about things going behind the scenes but not revealing any info make people wonder who belongs to a "secret society" here
Exactly what I was talking about you too are an PHPIC member and come to the NACHI site .
You give zero information and do little that I can see to help the Ontario Home Inspector .
I have not seen say any thing about the directors not being at arms length from the industry .
All the best Hope we soon all can see a better way of doing things .

Roy

[Wand Raymond]

Originally Posted by yolhovsky

Roy, it seems to me that Doug is talking about YOU referring to other people as members of "secret society", who are unwilling to share any info. I guess the info was revealed and explained many times before but was not accepted by YOU. Doug is also a member of NACHI. So am I. We are all business owners and belonging to one association or another is purely personal decision. Some choose to belong to a few associations, the others do not belong to any. This should not be deemed as being in someone's camp. And the statements like yours about things going behind the scenes but not revealing any info make people wonder who belongs to a "secret society" here?

Actually the information given out by (names with held) has been fraught with embellishments, misinformation, and lies.

It doesn't have to be accepted by Roy or anyone else with a brain who took time to research and write letters to find out what the truth is.

Big difference - so your inference - information from competitive associations does not have to be accepted as factual by Roy or anyone else for that matter. The other associations have realized that misinformation is not going to be accepted, hook, line and sinker.

Those other associations have their agendas and conflicts which is fine, but they should realize that any information they do release will be put under the microscope given their actions in the past.

As with any association there are those members who choose to be apathetic and keep their heads in the sand and not rock the boat.

Been there done that.

[Douglas Cossar]

Originally Posted by rcooke

Thanks Doug and what have you done for this our industry .
I have not seen any info added by you .
I also see you are a PHPIO member .
We all know Bill Mullen is desperate to know exactly what is happening with others and never gives out any facts .
Sorry Doug But I think you are in Bills Camp and no way do I want to jeopardize what could happen in the future .
Your letter sounds like Bill has helped with the writing .
Thanks for asking but I can not help you or PHPIO ... Roy
I am on the side of the Canadian Home Inspector all the way no BS from me .
I am completly at arms length and have nothing to gain .

You might recall ( or you might not) that I made attempts to get all the players in the different associations together so that all the bickering would end.

No one was interested in getting together to resolve the issues.

As Yurie said, I choose to join PHPIC and I have been a interNACHI member for quite some time and I don't need Bill or anyone else for that matter to help me with anything.

There is really no point in discussing this further because, as is well known, anyone who disagrees with you winds up in a pissing match.
Not going to happen,

Over and Out

[Wand Raymond]

Originally Posted by dcossar

You might recall ( or you might not) that I made attempts to get all the players in the different associations together so that all the bickering would end.

No one was interested in getting together to resolve the issues.

As Yurie said, I choose to join PHPIC and I have been a interNACHI member for quite some time and I don't need Bill or anyone else for that matter to help me with anything.

There is really no point in discussing this further because, as is well known, anyone who disagrees with you winds up in a pissing match.
Not going to happen,

Over and Out

Big deal so you offered to get the camps together. The problem is bigger than you Doug and therein lies the problem. You asked and made and attempted but that is apparently where you stop the attempt.

[KEVIN WOOD]

You constently rant about others not providing information.

Which side of the fence are you on?

That was not an appropriate statement for you to make Douglas.

If you did your research you would find out that it was Roy that was instrumental in the Certified Master Inspector logo that you have on the message board.

He is well respected in the field of Home Inspection because of his long term commitment to the industry. He has been on both sides which helps us in our Ontario status. I fully agree not to give out information on the message and so does Nick on certain Ontario matters.

We are under attack by a certain organizations that want to take away our credibility in HI industry from InterNachi Inspectors.

I don't agree with everything about InterNachi but I do agree what is done is to most benefit of all.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by dcossar

You might recall ( or you might not) that I made attempts to get all the players in the different associations together so that all the bickering would end.

No one was interested in getting together to resolve the issues.

As Yurie said, I choose to join PHPIC and I have been a interNACHI member for quite some time and I don't need Bill or anyone else for that matter to help me with anything.

There is really no point in discussing this further because, as is well known, anyone who disagrees with you winds up in a pissing match.
Not going to happen,

Over and Out

All is lost if we can not have a discussion .
Agree or disagree we need to all try and do what is best for our industry . To refuse to talk about our future is not I feel very helpful.
What Upsets me is false information and lies from some
not good
not proper and
not needed .
We do not have to agree but to stop discussions is sad .
Thanks any way and I do hope we all are satisfied with the out come .
Have you followed what is happening in BC and Alberta .
Have you followed what is happing at OAHI .
I sure hope the Ontario home inspectors do not have this happen here ..
Roy

[Wand Raymond]

You all will be pleased to learn that OAHI is still faltering. No news letters, no financial reports, no answers, not much of anything accept an association which favors some individuals over others, and discriminatory practices.

One newly elected director is naive enough to think that her position will change the status quo. Many directors have had the same view only to find out otherwise, and to also find out the so called elected are actually just a face and a front to the powers behind the scenes and those who gain financial rewards by teaching to the exclusion of others who are also qualified.

The directorship is still blabbing that the members need to get involved and volunteer to help the association. The problem is that no one wants to get involved because change is not accepted nor wanted by the zealots who run OAHI.

The same ex officios who come here and post and ask what I and others have done continue to be hypocrites by their continuance in renewing each year with no real accounting for their monies, let alone an association which cares for the membership.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Gee still no change when I sued them in 2003 and they paid me off for their errors. The membership was never told about it .The members never new how much money they spent on a frivolous charge , I saw figures of $30,000;00 and never a denial from the BOD so it might have even been more .
No they are spending a lot of money on that office ( Silly Move ) and their returns just about balance their expenses .